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Old 08-07-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
cherry picked one statistic out of context,
Another catch-phrase that your using, but don't seem to understand what it means. Raw data, which the report shows, is by it's very nature, about as "in context" as you can get.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:12 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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While I don't think the media should be controlled, per se, I do think media outlets should be required to be more transparent with their political leanings.
Let's just bring back the fairness doctrine. It worked well until the 1980s.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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It was posted in the poll results, which were linked in the OP for anyone who wasn't too lazy to find it. I found it from this discussion.


What I find interesting is that you can't defend your comrad's hate for the values in our bill of rights, so you go about attacking the source. Well (dear), the source is disclosed, NO MATTER HOW YOU FIND IT, so why don't you tell us how you feel about it. How would you answer the question. Should Trump be able to shut down the media? If yes, how do you justify that, and if not, how do you explain your comrad's anti-American thoughts?

Let's hear it, "dear"!
Comrad? I have no idea what you are talking about except you seem very agitated.



And the poll did not say one single thing about Trump. That's you projecting your issues onto this topic.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:16 PM
 
Location: NC
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While I don't think the media should be controlled, per se, I do think media outlets should be required to be more transparent with their political leanings.

Too many of these companies are trying to present themselves as neutral and unbiased, when in reality, they all contort the context of their stories in clever ways to influence public opinion. That, IMO, is just as dangerous as "controlling" the media.
I can relate to this comment. I think my answer to it would be something like: You, as a consumer, get to choose which media you consume. We want to keep that possibility wide open, and that is why it should not be restricted. Just because some people (not you, as far as I know) are too ignorant to seek out opposing views, does not mean they don't exist.

In fact, the risk of biased and fake news has never been as boldly on display as it has since January 21st, 2017, but hopefully the American people will do better next time. That being said, I fully recognize there are people with blinders on both sides of the aisle, and all throughout the middle.

Fake or biased news is dangerous, but I think that ultimately, we have to trust that the majority of people are curious enough to seek the truth. We got a little bit lazy recently, and I hope we learned from it.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:16 PM
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Location: Columbia, SC
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...infowars made people think...
True. It made me think Alex Jones was an insane crybaby who wouldn't know what reality is if it came up and bit him on the butt.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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And the poll did not say one single thing about Trump. That's you projecting your issues onto this topic.
Ever see a Venn Diagram?? Look it up it will help you understand the following, sweetie.

98% of Repugs support trump.
43% of Repugs support trump shutting down the media
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: California
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Let's just bring back the fairness doctrine. It worked well until the 1980s.
That is another solution I am on board with. Regardless, something needs to change as I feel that the media are using their freedom of the press powers irresponsibly.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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Another catch-phrase that your using, but don't seem to understand what it means. Raw data, which the report shows, is by it's very nature, about as "in context" as you can get.
Nope.

  • OP draws conclusion that all Republicans believe based on poll.
  • Yet actual poll says it's not scientific.
  • Actual poll called 900 random people on phone.
  • Says there is no margin of accuracy because it doesn't exist.
  • This completely ignored by OP which drew conclusion about ALL Republicans.
So from this nonsense, you guys decide to attribute results to 10s of millions of people you don't know, never seen, have no dealings with. Hence the daily circle jerk of hating on your fellow Americans.

They say self deception, by definition, can't be perceived. It was just proven.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Poll question: “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior”

43% of Republicans agreed with that statement. Wow.

43% of Republicans don't believe in the First Amendment?
43% don't believe in the freedom of the press?
43% want American media to be propaganda outlets that only report positive stories about Trump?
43% want the government to interfere with private news corporations?

It appears 43% of Republicans need to take a civics class and brush up on basic Constitutional principles.
The whole idea of a president having control or power over the press is very un-American.
Not surprised at all. This country has been moving toward corporate fascism for a long time. Beginning in the 70's we were dumbed down as a society, and once the critical thinking skills were effectively dismantled, the work went on for decades to fill those empty minds with populist right wing garbage. The American dream and our Constitution have been under assault for quite a while. This did not begin with Trump, he is just the vile fungus that feeds on the rot of a once great nation.
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Old 08-07-2018, 12:20 PM
 
Location: NC
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Comrad? I have no idea what you are talking about except you seem very agitated.



And the poll did not say one single thing about Trump. That's you projecting your issues onto this topic.
I am agitated, because you are not demonstrating a single thread of integrity in this discussion, and it is derailing an otherwise decent debate. And because you either did not bother to open the poll, or you are pure lying. It asked very specific questions about Trump.

First question, on page 2. If you're curious, you'll actually click on the link and read it before you comment again:

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of the following?
Total favorable
Total
(N = 1,003)
Republican
(N = 363)
Democrat
(N = 323)
Independent
(N = 207)
The Weather Channel 85% 88% 90% 82%
PBS 79 73 90 76
NBC News 64 46 87 60
ABC News 64 48 84 62
BBC 63 57 79 63
CBS News 63 49 85 62
USA Today 61 53 76 60
Wall Street Journal 60 54 75 57
ESPN 60 59 67 53
New York Times 56 33 83 55
Barack Obama 55 21 91 57
CNN 54 34 81 55
Washington Post 51 31 78 52
Associated Press 51 38 74 49
CNBC 49 36 70 47
Fox News 49 79 23 42
MSNBC 48 32 73 49
NPR 46 38 63 43
Huffington Post 46 31 68 43
News talk radio 44 51 46 43
Donald Trump 42 82 12 35
CSPAN 42 36 55 44
Reuters News 41 36 54 42
BuzzFeed News 40 32 53 38
Daily Beast 21 17 30 22
Breitbart 19 32 11 16

(It is in a chart form in the link. Easier to read.)
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