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Old 08-08-2018, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Right, and it's not like the fires are just in California...As of today we have 462 wildfires in my province of BC.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...cross-province

As of August 1st Canada has recorded 4,976 fires.

Europe is also burning... https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=57081024
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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LAWL.


Tell the people in California whose homes are burning that Al Gore is going to save them.
Emotive argument, not a rational argument.
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Old 08-08-2018, 08:45 PM
 
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The vast majority of climate papers in the 1970s predicted warming.

I have been paying a carbon tax for the past ten years....What are you doing?
And how has your carbon tax helped? Really curious since Canada has an enormous oil industry, and it’s pretty heavy on the pollution. Extracting oil from tar sands. It’s like the strip mining of the industry. But it must feel nice to pay that tax.

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Old 08-08-2018, 09:01 PM
 
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Jeez, what’s up with all the arsonists? That’s horrible! It seems like every other wildfire is started by a arson. WTH?
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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And how has your carbon tax helped? Really curious since Canada has an enormous oil industry, and it’s pretty heavy on the pollution. Extracting oil from tar sands. It’s like the strip mining of the industry. But it must feel nice to lay that tax.
BC. is not Alberta where the tar sands are.... The tax is provincial and just covers BC. Yes it's not perfect, but seems to be working... Between 2007 and 2015, provincial real GDP grew more than 17%, while net emissions declined by 4.7%.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/e...ion/carbon-tax
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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Hahaha, firefighters are now experts on climate change. They've amazingly cracked the code on something that a bunch of PhD scientists can't even come to an agreement on.

Side note: thanks for the laugh OP.
You mean the 97% of scientists who have come to an agreement regarding climate change? Those scientists?

Side note: It's not funny that our President is an idiot.
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Models successfully reproduce temperatures since 1900 globally...
TOP TEN WRONG PREDICTIONS

1. Biologist Paul Ehrlich predicted in the 1970s that: “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” and that “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
2. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
3. In January 2006 Al Gore predicted that we had ten years left before the planet turned into a “total frying pan.” We made it.
4. In 2008, a segment aired on ABC News predicted that NYC would be under water by June 2015.
5. In 1970, ecologist Kenneth E.F. Watt predicted that “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but 11 degrees colder by the year 2000, This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.”
6. In 2008, Al Gore predicted that there is a 75% chance that the entire north polar ice cap would be completely melted within 5-7 years. He at least hedged that prediction by giving himself “75%” certainty.
7. On May 13th 2014 France’s foreign minister said that we only have 500 days to stop “climate chaos.” The recent Paris climate summit met 565 days after his remark.
8. In 2009, National Aeronautics and Space Administration Goddard Space Flight Center head James Wassen warned that Obama only had four years left to save the earth.
9. On the first Earth Day its sponsor warned that “in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
10. And another Earth Day prediction from Kenneth Watt: “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

MORE WRONG PREDICTIONS
18 spectacularly wrong predictions made around the time of first Earth Day in 1970, expect more this year - AEI

Seven Big Failed Environmentalist Predictions

https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/...rming-industry
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Trotting out "record temperatures" ignores the simple fact that the Earth is not getting any hotter.

- - - DATA - - -
● Earth max : (134.33 F)
● Space station max : (250 F)
● Lunar surface max : (242.33 F)

Zero atmosphere = higher maximum temperature
How does a “heat trapping”atmosphere stay colder?

And if heat was being 'trapped,' why hasn't the maximum temperature gone up to a new record level?

Is the “Greenhouse effect” like a refrigerator “trapping heat”?

There is no "heating up" or trapping of heat by the atmosphere when it is COOLING the planet. And since there is no conduction nor convection of heat in a vacuum, that leaves RADIATION. The atmosphere is radiating / reflecting back energy, that COOLS the planet.

Facts in support - - -
Earth Albedo : 0.3
Moon Albedo : 0.11

Coincidentally, the greenhouse gases have a higher emissivity that means they COOL the planet even more. And the #1 greenhouse gas is water vapor, which has a far greater effect than trace gases like CO2 or methane.. . .
[Is that a NEKKID EMPEROR over there?]
Remember, even the experts admit that we can do nothing to STOP change, but merely slow it down. Which begs the question, how does sequestering CO2 prevent the alleged disasters that have yet to manifest, when water vapor is the major factor?

Better not think about that. Move along, nothing to see here, do not look behind the curtain, little girl. We are the great and powerful ... Church of the Warming Planet.
Blasphemers are not tolerated !
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:06 PM
 
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You seriously have to ask this question? They limit water usage so they HAVE water for emergencies like this. My god, it’s not rocket science.
The fire dept officials claimed they have PLENTY of water for emergency's though...?
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Old 08-09-2018, 12:07 AM
 
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BC. is not Alberta where the tar sands are.... The tax is provincial and just covers BC. Yes it's not perfect, but seems to be working... Between 2007 and 2015, provincial real GDP grew more than 17%, while net emissions declined by 4.7%.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/e...ion/carbon-tax
They probably declined more in the US in that same time period (since we had a higher place to decline from). I don’t think the carbon tax does anything but enrich a few people. It’s certainly not stopping the energy extraction business.
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