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Old 08-11-2018, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Poor me. We're all victims. Life is so unfair! Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!

I guess the point is Leftists are all pessimists, and losers, huh?
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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Well first off Bloomberg is owned by Michael Bloomberg , an anti Trumper
https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkir...-to-us-cities/

Also your link ends with this ...seems promising no ?

“What will determine real wages in the coming months is not inflation as much as what happen to wages, he said. “I do anticipate nominal wage growth picking up which should help drive up real wage gains over the next few months.”
Bloomberg wants, more than most, for wages to go up.

He is well known and honest figure and was extremely popular and proficient in both business and Mayor of NYC. Of course...any honest person would dislike Trump, so that is no disqualification.

The "hope" that things will improve after they have not for decades is quite a reach. The thread is about the American Dream being dead. Let's be real. It's been dead or at least two generations.

No one said it will be dead forever...but it's dead now. And, the death is largely due to false Gods such as trickle down and tax cuts out of debt and deficit and all the other well-known stuff.

The American Forgotten man doesn't count. His only use is as a talking point for Trump....which is, of course, a lie in itself.

Who do you think cares more about average or all Americans? Trump or Bloomberg? You don't have to answer that, but I would ask you to research where Bloomberg puts his honest-made money and where Trump doesn't put his conned and corrupt income. That matters....and is an indication....

Here is Bloombergs.
https://www.bloomberg.org/

Trumps is....well, a picture of him on the wall of his hotel and a charity set up as another of his con jobs.
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:51 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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I didn’t see a link but it sounds like the typical liberal Trump is the worst , Trump ruined America thing .. even though unemployment is at record lows and historic lows for minorities .

If things were worse for minorities under Trump versus Obama it would be one thing but there is zero evidence .

It’s all imaginary nonsense .
Unemployment rate by year,

2009- 9.9%
2010- 9.3%
2011- 8.5%
2012- 7.9%
2013- 6.7%
2014- 5.6%
2015- 5.0%
2016- 4.7%
2017- 4.1%
2018- 3.8%

https://www.thebalance.com/unemploym...y-year-3305506
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000


Black unemployment rate by year,

2009- 16.1
2010- 15.5
2011- 15.4
2012- 14.0
2013- 11.9
2014- 10.6
2015- 8.5
2016- 7.9
2017- 6.8
2018- 5.9

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006


Do you believe Donald Trump lowered the unemployment rates, or did Donald Trump inherit unemployment rates that have been steadily falling for 9 years?
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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Clearly, Obama benefited from the policies of GWB for 8 years. Now, President Trump has taken the torch and is marching forward to make America great again. And yes, all the bad things that happened from 2000 to 2008 were carryovers from the Clinton administration.
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by craigiri View Post
Bloomberg wants, more than most, for wages to go up.

He is well known and honest figure and was extremely popular and proficient in both business and Mayor of NYC. Of course...any honest person would dislike Trump, so that is no disqualification.

The "hope" that things will improve after they have not for decades is quite a reach. The thread is about the American Dream being dead. Let's be real. It's been dead or at least two generations.

No one said it will be dead forever...but it's dead now. And, the death is largely due to false Gods such as trickle down and tax cuts out of debt and deficit and all the other well-known stuff.

The American Forgotten man doesn't count. His only use is as a talking point for Trump....which is, of course, a lie in itself.

Who do you think cares more about average or all Americans? Trump or Bloomberg? You don't have to answer that, but I would ask you to research where Bloomberg puts his honest-made money and where Trump doesn't put his conned and corrupt income. That matters....and is an indication....

Here is Bloombergs.
https://www.bloomberg.org/

Trumps is....well, a picture of him on the wall of his hotel and a charity set up as another of his con jobs.
1. most of us New Yorker know bloomy is an idiot

2. the American dream lives... and most people are successful in life... the only failures are liberals and their need for participation trophies
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do you believe Donald Trump lowered the unemployment rates, or did Donald Trump inherit unemployment rates that have been steadily falling for 9 years?
both... he inherited a slowly getting better economy.... and trump and the republicans have made it even better
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
Unemployment rate by year,

2009- 9.9%
2010- 9.3%
2011- 8.5%
2012- 7.9%
2013- 6.7%
2014- 5.6%
2015- 5.0%
2016- 4.7%
2017- 4.1%
2018- 3.8%

https://www.thebalance.com/unemploym...y-year-3305506
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000


Black unemployment rate by year,

2009- 16.1
2010- 15.5
2011- 15.4
2012- 14.0
2013- 11.9
2014- 10.6
2015- 8.5
2016- 7.9
2017- 6.8
2018- 5.9

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006


Do you believe Donald Trump lowered the unemployment rates, or did Donald Trump inherit unemployment rates that have been steadily falling for 9 years?
You don’t think Trump’s pro business policies and deregulation etc has anything to do with it .

Also liberals promised us incessantly that the economy would crash and it would be doom and gloom IF Trump was elected .
The stock market was supposed to crash badly .

None of that happened of course . So why should we believe liberals anymore ?
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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One example of many here is one from the New York Times

Of course that was totally wrong and an attempt in putting fear into people to not vote for Trump .

——
Assume, for a moment, that Donald J. Trump wins the presidency.

Some readers of this column will shudder at the thought and might even stop reading now. Others in the business world will beam, like Peter Thiel, the Silicon Valley entrepreneur.

But what exactly happens the day after? To markets? To the economy?

The conventional wisdom is that, right off the bat, the stock market would fall precipitously. Simon Johnson, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist, posited that Mr. Trump’s presidency would “likely cause the stock market to crash and plunge the world into recession.” He predicted that Mr. Trump’s “anti-trade policies would cause a sharp slowdown, much like the British are experiencing” after their vote to exit the European Union.

“In all likelihood, a Trump victory would lead to a swift, knee-jerk sell-off. Many investors will choose to sell stocks and ask questions later.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/b...rump-wins.html
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:24 AM
 
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Bloomberg wants, more than most, for wages to go up.

He is well known and honest figure and was extremely popular and proficient in both business and Mayor of NYC. Of course...any honest person would dislike Trump, so that is no disqualification.

The "hope" that things will improve after they have not for decades is quite a reach. The thread is about the American Dream being dead. Let's be real. It's been dead or at least two generations.

No one said it will be dead forever...but it's dead now. And, the death is largely due to false Gods such as trickle down and tax cuts out of debt and deficit and all the other well-known stuff.

The American Forgotten man doesn't count. His only use is as a talking point for Trump....which is, of course, a lie in itself.

Who do you think cares more about average or all Americans? Trump or Bloomberg? You don't have to answer that, but I would ask you to research where Bloomberg puts his honest-made money and where Trump doesn't put his conned and corrupt income. That matters....and is an indication....

Here is Bloombergs.
https://www.bloomberg.org/

Trumps is....well, a picture of him on the wall of his hotel and a charity set up as another of his con jobs.
I don't like Bloomberg, but then I don't like Trump either.

But you're right about his business and government proficiency (except for the soft drink issue, IMO).

In Business, there is no argument. Bloomberg is self made, and his net worth is a minimum 15x that of Trump, and probably a much greater multiple.

I didn't even need to peruse your link to come to a positive conclusion re how the public benefits from Bloomberg's largesse. Spending a fair amount of time at the Metropolitan Museum of Art would probably do it for most people. It did for me.

My first trip to NYC was in the 70s, but most of my trips have been during the Bloomberg and DeBlazio administrations. Bloomberg really had things dialed down well (IMO), and DeBlazio....ugh....I'll leave it at that.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:49 AM
 
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this forum is nothing but TDS threads anymore. its almost unreadable. seriously, why don't some of you think about moving. you obviously hate this country and many of your fellow citizens.
I find that very strange actually, so many threads and posts where people are talking about how much they believe he is corrupt and even criminal, but then 'talk' is all they do about it?!

Why arent they gathering and trying to remove this govt from power if this is what they truly believe? The Constitution permits it if such a govt is ever in power, Id bet majority of them are very obedient and compliant people (what does that say about them! LOL)

Look at the American Revolution, it started as a small group of people upset at a tyrannical govt in power, did they just whine and complain about it...No, they picked up rifles and torches and took to the streets, they were disobedient, they destroyed private property, they resorted to violence, etc etc...but these people are celebrated as patriots today for these things.

What are they going to say about 'patriots' in our time, when they came up against a tyrannical govt...they whined and complained on the internet, they blogged about it, they talked to their friends, etc, but they were not willing to do any more than that, or do anything that may be too risky...I doubt they will go down in history as patriots!
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