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Old 08-09-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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I’m asking because the putative “world’s greatest negotiator” is our president, right?

So since right wingers say that Obama couldn’t negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag, who got the better deal?
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Old 08-09-2018, 03:33 PM
 
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Let's See.


Obama Deal
  • Give Iranian Mullahs billions of dollars with no conditions.
  • Give (I was for it before I was against it) Kerry authority to negotiate a deal at any cost. Obama needs legacy.
  • Don't have any verification that matters.
  • Iranians for their part hold up US Navy vessel. Force American military to bend knee in front of Revolutionary Guard with AKs. Score huge propaganda victory. US Navy humiliated. Obama does nothing.
  • Iranians laugh all the way to the bank, keep developing nuclear program. Spit on Americans.
  • Obama apologises for America.
  • MSM crows about Obama & Kerry.
Trump Matter
  • No "deals" were made.
  • Holds stick to North Korea and the communists in China backing them.
  • NK backs down. Destroys the Nuclear facilities.
  • Meets with Trump. Says they won't develop nuclear weapons.
  • Returns remains of US Military. Honors them.
  • Positive hope for future relations. Did not cost the US taxpayers anything.
  • Trump working to Make America Great Again.
  • MSM angry as hell because they can't spin it as a big negative.
It's as simple as that.

Last edited by WaldoKitty; 08-09-2018 at 03:48 PM..
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Well, lets see. One is a globally brokered agreement to stop nuclear proliferation and normalize relations with an ostracized country. The other is a secret handshake mutual masturbation session.


I think I'll go with the first choice, since to the best of my knowledge there's no actual "deal" from the second, just a bunch of hot air and two tragic haircuts.
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:27 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
Let's See.


Obama Deal
  • Give Iranian Mullahs billions of dollars with no conditions.
  • Give (I was for it before I was against it) Kerry authority to negotiate a deal at any cost. Obama needs legacy.
  • Don't have any verification that matters.
  • Iranians for their part hold up US Navy vessel. Force American military to bend knee in front of Revolutionary Guard with AKs. Score huge propaganda victory. US Navy humiliated. Obama does nothing.
  • Iranians laugh all the way to the bank, keep developing nuclear program. Spit on Americans.
  • Obama apologises for America.
  • MSM crows about Obama & Kerry.
Trump Matter
  • No "deals" were made.
  • Holds stick to North Korea and the communists in China backing them.
  • NK backs down. Destroys the Nuclear facilities.
  • Meets with Trump. Says they won't develop nuclear weapons.
  • Returns remains of US Military. Honors them.
  • Positive hope for future relations. Did not cost the US taxpayers anything.
  • Trump working to Make America Great Again.
  • MSM angry as hell because they can't spin it as a big negative.
It's as simple as that.
Obviously you haven't seen the recent reports showing NK is working on their nuclear program again.
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:29 PM
 
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What deal has North Korea actually signed?

Nothing. You see actually having a N. Korea deal is required before we can compare the deals.
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
Let's See.


Obama Deal
  • Give Iranian Mullahs billions of dollars with no conditions.
  • Give (I was for it before I was against it) Kerry authority to negotiate a deal at any cost. Obama needs legacy.
  • Don't have any verification that matters.
  • Iranians for their part hold up US Navy vessel. Force American military to bend knee in front of Revolutionary Guard with AKs. Score huge propaganda victory. US Navy humiliated. Obama does nothing.
  • Iranians laugh all the way to the bank, keep developing nuclear program. Spit on Americans.
  • Obama apologises for America.
  • MSM crows about Obama & Kerry.
Trump Matter
  • No "deals" were made.
  • Holds stick to North Korea and the communists in China backing them.
  • NK backs down. Destroys the Nuclear facilities.
  • Meets with Trump. Says they won't develop nuclear weapons.
  • Returns remains of US Military. Honors them.
  • Positive hope for future relations. Did not cost the US taxpayers anything.
  • Trump working to Make America Great Again.
  • MSM angry as hell because they can't spin it as a big negative.
It's as simple as that.
You have a way with ignoring facts but then you are a Trump supporter, I know you didn’t write that on your own how about sharing your source.
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:37 PM
 
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Nothing. You see actually having a N. Korea deal is required before we can compare the deals.

That could be helpful.
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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There is no Trump deal, just like there’s no Trumpcare.
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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So, as many have already said...the OPs thread title is a lie....but why could or would we expect anything different?


The irna deal is set in stone....or was....anyway, but I'm curious, why does the OP support iran?
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:44 PM
 
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There is no Trump deal, just like there’s no Trumpcare.
Nope.

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