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Old 08-12-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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By allowing asbestos to remain legal, the Trump administration would be responsible for a flood of asbestos imports from Russia and other countries into the US, as well as the wave of illnesses and deaths that will continue for years to come,” said Linda Reinstein, co-founder and president of the Asbestos Disease Awareness Organization.
It does help to have some facts. There have been no changes in the bans. In fact the EPA is working to tighten them up even more.

U.S. Federal Bans on Asbestos | epa.gov


Yet another example of a media which makes things up.
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Old 08-12-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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I get it !!!
Dogs have four legs and cats have four legs so they must be related.
If that four legged dog has a face of that four legged cat on its side, I would think so.
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Old 08-12-2018, 05:50 PM
 
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It does help to have some facts. There have been no changes in the bans. In fact the EPA is working to tighten them up even more.

U.S. Federal Bans on Asbestos | epa.gov


Yet another example of a media which makes things up.
Not quite...
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EPA is proposing a significant new use rule (SNUR) for certain uses of asbestos (including asbestos-containing goods) that would require manufacturers and importers to receive EPA approval before starting or resuming manufacturing, and importing or processing of asbestos. This review process would require EPA to evaluate the intended use of asbestos and, when necessary, take action to prohibit or limit the use. This proposed SNUR broadens EPA’s 1989 restrictions on asbestos products. EPA is proposing to ensure that the manufacture, import, or processing for the currently unregulated new uses of asbestos identified in the rule are prohibited unless reviewed and approved by EPA. In the absence of this proposed rule, the importing or processing of asbestos (including as part of an article) for the significant new uses proposed in this rule may begin at any time, without prior notice to EPA.
https://www.epa.gov/asbestos/federal...-snur-asbestos
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New proposed rules the EPA set out in June will allow the sale of products containing asbestos, subject to case-by-case approval by the agency, which promises to be super careful and guided by science. But it won't be too nitpicky, either, since as part of a regulatory reform started under Barack Obama, then turned into regulatory clear-cutting by Trump and Scott Pruitt, the Agency said all new chemical approvals will only assess the health effects of direct contact with the substances, not the effects of substances in the air, water, or ground, and certainly not from their disposal, because god do you want to be bored to death or be able to buy new fireproof diapers? (Probably not those. But you can dream!)
https://www.wonkette.com/trump-epa-asbestos

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Old 08-12-2018, 06:02 PM
 
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Not quite...

The topic is dead. That EPA link proves it.

Putin & Trump are not conspiring to bring Russian asbestos into the USA.

Time to go google up another derangement topic. There's still hours left in the day. (I hear that CNN, WaPo, NYT, NBC are good places for this)
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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The topic is dead. That EPA link proves it.

Putin & Trump are not conspiring to bring Russian asbestos into the USA.

Time to go google up another derangement topic. There's still hours left in the day. (I hear that CNN, WaPo, NYT, NBC are good places for this)
Do you think asbestos is good for humans?
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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By allowing asbestos to remain legal, the Trump administration would be responsible for a flood of asbestos imports from Russia and other countries into the US, as well as the wave of illnesses and deaths that will continue for years to come,” said Linda Reinstein, co-founder and president of the Asbestos Disease Awareness Organization.

Last year, Brazil, which was responsible for the bulk of asbestos exports to the US, joined about 60 other countries in banning the product, leaving Russia as the major source of asbestos sent to America

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https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/...lasbest-russia
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And we allow this degenerate and his cronies to get rich off of this. May they spend their profits on doctors and dentists.
It should be noted that asbestos is fireproof. Where this bunch is going, that would make it an appropriate material to take along.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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The topic is dead. That EPA link proves it.

Putin & Trump are not conspiring to bring Russian asbestos into the USA.

Time to go google up another derangement topic. There's still hours left in the day. (I hear that CNN, WaPo, NYT, NBC are good places for this)
Why are you deflecting? You don't know what "proposed" means? And in case you hadn't noticed I too provided the EPA link. You just ignored that part.
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Approval of New Asbestos-Containing Products?

The Environmental Protection Agency will be allowing for potential new uses of asbestos, while limiting the scope of studies that assess its risk.


The problem, according to critics, is twofold. The first, more generally, is that the EPA could have used the currently unfolding overhaul of the TSCA — which began at the end of the Obama administration and has continued along a very different path under Trump — to ban any new uses of asbestos, something that had been the case at the end of the last administration. Instead, they are explicitly allowing new uses, but with the caveat that the EPA first evaluate possible potential new uses based on “risk evaluation, select studies, and use the best available science.”

The second problem, more specifically, concerns the way in which the EPA has proposed to evaluate that risk. In May 2018, the EPA published a document known as the “Problem Formulation of the Risk Evaluation for Asbestos,” which establishes the scientific approach the EPA will take in evaluating these new uses. Significantly, their approach will not include information from existing, or “legacy” uses of asbestos, despite the significant body of work around health risks stemming from those uses:


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is...stos-products/


Rating: Mostly True

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Old 08-12-2018, 11:00 PM
 
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This is the part where Waldo disappears
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Old 08-13-2018, 02:55 AM
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Asbestos Is still legal in the US. It was never banned. Canada is considering a ban this year.


It should be noted that there are different types of Asbestos.

In 1985, the UK banned the import and use of blue (crocidolite) and brown (amosite) asbestos.

In 1992 the law was extended to ban some uses of white (chrysotile) asbestos, traditionally considered less lethal than the other forms of the mineral.

In 1999 all asbestos import and use was banned in the UK, and in 2006 new laws relating to existing asbestos in public buildings and private residencies came in to force, and a lot of asbestos is now routinely removed by secialised contrctors in space like breathing suits.

The final piece of legislation was in 2012, which saw further elements oi European Law and bans regarding asbestos were also added to UK law.

I take it the EPA and Trump Administration will not be allowing the use of blue (crocidolite) and brown (amosite) asbestos, and that this only involves white (chrysotile) asbestos, although this is bad enough.

I am not sure what the current US Law regarding the various types of asbestos is, but in much of the world all asbestos is banned and there are no plans to ever make it legal again, indeed the law regarding asbestos is stringently enforced in most countries.
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Old 08-13-2018, 05:38 AM
 
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Trump Derangement Logic
  • OP Discovers that country that covers 1/6 of the Earth's surface, Russia, as result, has the most asbestos.
  • Light bulb goes off. Find a way to link it to Trump.
  • Post article from leftist Huffington Post & the fully discredited Snopes.
  • Bingo. Putin told Trump to say Asbestos is safe. Given as fact.
Has to be seen to be believed.
Too funny.
And very true.......
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