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Old 08-12-2018, 11:48 PM
 
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Looks like rolling out the red-carpet for illegal aliens, refugees and welfare shoppers from all over the world isn't working out very well.

California taxes 10.3% on the 54,000th dollar of taxable income
Wyoming has 0% of the 54,000th dollar of taxable income

https://files.taxfoundation.org/2018...on-FF576-1.pdf

https://www.edd.ca.gov/payroll_taxes...roll_Taxes.htm

Long Beach, California has a 10.25% sales tax

Gillette, WY has a 5% sales tax

Sales & Use Tax Rate Charts - Wyoming Department of Revenue

https://taxfoundation.org/sales-tax-...-midyear-2017/

Looks like a 1,700 square foot home in Wyoming has only 1,200 dollars of the property tax a year.

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...981_rect/7_zm/
If California didn’t have these taxes in place, the entire Population of Wyoming would’ve moved to California including the Bison herds.
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Old 08-12-2018, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Because California is desirable. Wyoming isn’t and never will be.
What's desirable about California? Most of the state is desert. Most of the rest is overcrowded, overpriced, over-regulated, overtaxed and filled with azzholes. WY has the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone. CA has LAs Skid Row and the Mojave Desert. Yes, they have some beautiful coastline...great for the .01% of the population that can afford to buy a home on it.
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Old 08-13-2018, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Wyoming has always been a net "taker" state -- collecting more money from Washington DC than they pay in.
California is a "donor" state. We pay more in than we get back.

2015
Wyoming, federal taxes paid in -- $5.28 billion source
Wyoming, federal money received -- $8.8 billion source

Why doesn't Wyoming raise their own state taxes so they don't need to take $3.5 billion in federal assistance?
Isn't it time for Wyoming to pay its own way?
Most of the federal money going into Wyoming is to help with the upkeep of the national parks that are there, and great chunk of Wyoming land is federal land via either national parks, or federal Indian reservations. Wyoming is about 62 million acres of land, and the federal government owns 30 million acres of that land, and mind you, most of Wyoming is very wild country, full of mountains and forests, unlike California that has large valleys for growing crops and mild temps for ease of living.
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Old 08-13-2018, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What's desirable about California? Most of the state is desert. Most of the rest is overcrowded, overpriced, over-regulated, overtaxed and filled with azzholes. WY has the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone. CA has LAs Skid Row and the Mojave Desert. Yes, they have some beautiful coastline...great for the .01% of the population that can afford to buy a home on it.
Wyoming might be beautiful in the spring and summer months, but the winters are wickedly harsh, and only the strongest can survive there.
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Old 08-13-2018, 03:58 AM
 
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Maybe this?
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Old 08-13-2018, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Answer; Socialism.
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Old 08-13-2018, 04:17 AM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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You do realize the data you posted refutes the very point you are, erroneously, trying to make?
Just checking.
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Old 08-13-2018, 05:30 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Hrm. There is a happy medium between hard left and hard right.
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Old 08-13-2018, 05:36 AM
 
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You compare apple vs oranges.

California has much higher population (largest in the country), more social benefits and much more desirable state than Wyoming who is virtually unknown even in this country. They run differently and also supply/demand.
Social benefits? You mean using other people’s money or wealth redistribution.
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Old 08-13-2018, 05:58 AM
 
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Wyoming has always been a net "taker" state -- collecting more money from Washington DC than they pay in.
California is a "donor" state. We pay more in than we get back.

2015
Wyoming, federal taxes paid in -- $5.28 billion source
Wyoming, federal money received -- $8.8 billion source

Why doesn't Wyoming raise their own state taxes so they don't need to take $3.5 billion in federal assistance?
Isn't it time for Wyoming to pay its own way?
Your "source" doesn't even confirm what you're posting. You're posting the state's total budget and telling us it's 100% federal money?

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Between fiscal years 2015 and 2016, total government spending in Wyoming decreased by approximately $0.9 billion—from $8.8 billion in fiscal year 2015 to an estimated $7.9 billion in 2016.
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The table below notes what share of Wyoming’s general revenues came from the federal government in 2014. That year, Wyoming received approximately $2.1 billion in federal aid
Wyoming actually has one of the highest net losses per capita of any state when it comes to federal funds, with a significantly higher loss rate than California.

The whole net federal tax loss/gain is largely a nonsense argument to begin with. The implication is that the people in a "bad" state are getting a bunch of welfare. The reality is that the majority of the money is dictated by the number of retirees and federal government workers in any given state. People don't retire and move to New Jersey.
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