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Old 08-14-2018, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Seems like these large urban states such as California have imported as much of the third-world as possible and they aren't contributing to the state so the taxes have to skyrocket.

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/04/0...lastic-straws/

California's taxes in future are going to have to skyrocket even more. They have tremendous unfunded pension liabilities, lots of refugees and illegal aliens with very high birth-rates and the state also has a terrible infrastructure.

Wyoming with a stable population will continue to be great.
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:01 PM
 
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Socialism isn’t cheap.
Bottom line.

How much "free" stuff are you giving away dictates how much money you need to pay for it.

Mehtinks Wyoming gives away a whole let less stuff to a whole lot fewer people than CA. Considering that just the Los Angeles school system student body is larger than the entire population of Wyoming, I am pretty sure Wyoming has smaller bills to pay for way fewer people.
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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I live in Vermont. There are more people who live in New York City slums than live in Vermont, but that doesn't mean those slums are a better place to live.
Really now? Which “slum” in NYC are you talking about?

Maybe you’re unaware, but there ain’t much “slum” left in NYC. That’s why an apartment in Bushwick, Brooklyn costs more than a mansion where you live.
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:15 PM
 
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Seems like these large urban states such as California have imported as much of the third-world as possible and they aren't contributing to the state so the taxes have to skyrocket.

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/04/0...lastic-straws/

California's taxes in future are going to have to skyrocket even more. They have tremendous unfunded pension liabilities, lots of refugees and illegal aliens with very high birth-rates and the state also has a terrible infrastructure.

Wyoming with a stable population will continue to be great.

Well with the property tax restriction the more people you shove into the area drive up the value of the real estate. So do public benefits. Thus the more money spent on infrastructure, the higher real estate prices will rise. Since its all funded by sales taxes and income taxes it does not really matter if its a net loss. A hundred dollars taxes resulting in a public service that increases the value of the real estate is a win. So tax and spend income and sales taxes while shoving as many people in causes rents to rise. The current leftist regime is also happy for the votes. Everyone is happy except for the losers who work and pay rent.

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Old 08-14-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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Really now? Which “slum” in NYC are you talking about?

Maybe you’re unaware, but there ain’t much “slum” left in NYC. That’s why an apartment in Bushwick, Brooklyn costs more than a mansion where you live.
Vermont has a population of 623,000 people. I don't know what your definition of slum is but there are 3.7 million people (43.5% of the population) living at or near the poverty level in NYC per the city govt. 1.6 million (19.5%) live in poverty in NYC. When I've driven through NYC on I95 some of the neighborhoods I pass are horrifying. When I go to Long Island and loop down to the Throgs Neck Bridge, again I hope my truck doesn't break down in some of the neighborhoods the highways go through.
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Old 08-14-2018, 03:35 PM
 
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Because people want to live there. Supply and demand.

Wyoming is beautiful, but landlocked and has harsh winters.
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Old 08-14-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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Vermont has a population of 623,000 people. I don't know what your definition of slum is but there are 3.7 million people (43.5% of the population) living at or near the poverty level in NYC per the city govt. 1.6 million (19.5%) live in poverty in NYC. When I've driven through NYC on I95 some of the neighborhoods I pass are horrifying. When I go to Long Island and loop down to the Throgs Neck Bridge, again I hope my truck doesn't break down in some of the neighborhoods the highways go through.
The gap between the haves and have nots is growing. Wages have not kept up to the inflation of basic things like housing, clean water and food, higher education, and medical care.

In the meantime, the folks with the most money have been scoring big time. You notice it in small ways, like being charged 50 cents at the store for using your debit card.

This kind of situation brings out the ugliness.
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Old 08-14-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You might as well ask: “why an apple is different than an orange”?
Why do red retina cones not absorb blue light?
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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Vermont has a population of 623,000 people. I don't know what your definition of slum is but there are 3.7 million people (43.5% of the population) living at or near the poverty level in NYC per the city govt. 1.6 million (19.5%) live in poverty in NYC. When I've driven through NYC on I95 some of the neighborhoods I pass are horrifying. When I go to Long Island and loop down to the Throgs Neck Bridge, again I hope my truck doesn't break down in some of the neighborhoods the highways go through.
Numbers don’t lie. I’m looking at the cost of housing in Throg’s Neck, since that’s the example you gave.

No way can you be in poverty and afford it. You might be house poor or apartment poor, but that ain’t poverty.

You may not be comfortable in the area, but that doesn’t make it a slum.
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:55 PM
 
Location: WY
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Because California is desirable. Wyoming isn’t and never will be.
Speak for yourself. I have no desire to visit that petri dish of a state.
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