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The problem is that no one can "give" to others without "taking" it (or the cost of it) from someone else. Americans don't like the concept of slavery. Our country actually fought a war over it in which millions died.
Then you surely strongly support people begging for money from the streets to pay for their medical care. That way its voluntarily given.
[quote=rstevens62;52815088]If someone would have the balls to challenge the govt on this, if it ever got to the supreme court, the Govt DOES NOT have the right to restrict access and criminalize certain drugs. Some have said this is why the Feds are not going after any states on the marijuana issue, they know if it ever goes to the SC, they will loose control over ALL drug laws.
With the pain pills being hard to get, you can blame the DEA for this, and surprisingly it happened during Obamas term! You see, the DEA is in bed with the drug cartels, they must ensure that all drugs remain as illegal as possible, so the cartels do not have any competition, they are sort of like the cartels lobbying and enforcement arm in the US, if you go back and look at laws the DEA had a hand in creating or changing they all benefit the drug cartels ability to do business in the US.[/QUOTE\]
The drug trade is where all the money goes for back ops.
A black operation (or black ops) is a covert operation by a government, a government agency, or a military organization. This can include activities by private companies or groups. Key features of a black operation are that it is secret and it is not attributable to the organization carrying it out.
Drugs will always be illegal. War on drugs will never end. Imho.
Single payer is not the cure all. Contrary to what the socialists think. Elective surgery will be gone. No funding for plastic surgery. Expect deductibles and waits for doctor visits. Expect caps on how much you use.
It will only get worse.
Then explain why the people in socialist Europe don't revolt against their single payer system. Someone even said health care isn't even a major issue there.
This viewpoint is nonsensical no matter how one rationalizes it.
It makes sense to me. Narcs say they only seize 10% of the underground drug market. So there is nothing serious about the war on drugs. What is going on is to help the drug cartels make more illegal money.
Well, let me know when you find an endless supply of money to create this utopia. In the mean time there is a child somewhere that will suffer while you spend limited resources on trying to keep a 90 year old alive for another few weeks.
Ever hear of a living will, or a DNR directive? I'm sure there are exceptions, but most people who are that old and that sick generally don't want heroic measures to prolong their deaths. Either way, it should be their decision.
Really?
Some of the Libertarian/Far Rights on here seem to have the compassion of a crocodile.
The way some of the posters are A-OK with people dying because it might cost them a few cents,
or blaming people because they get sick....it is obnoxious and I am sorry it is totally devoid of any human compassion whatsoever.
I see now why the one Poster from the UK started the thread talking about how mean and hateful most Americans are to one another - This thread and some of the others prove him right.....I am sorry people but you can't even put a price on human life. And it is ridiculous just to opt for more suffering and pain for other humans - because you seem to lack one single empathy Gene in your DNA Make up. (You should check that out...it is usually a sign of mental illness like being a Sociopath or Psychopath...just saying.)
From studies, it looks like it would even cost less to go to single payer/Universal Care...
because you are cutting out the middle men - the Insurance companies. It also gives you more leverage to make the large pharmaceutical Companies lower their prices.
It's worked for all the other Countries....it would work here too, with the right amount of oversight.
And don't throw the Socialist Word at me....England, Ireland, Australia, Japan, Canada etc all have this and they are not socialist countries at all.
You can reduce costs, save lives, save money and you don't want to do it, because "you are being robbed?" Well, they have to have some taxes because you have to pay for the Military,
the Police Departments, the Fire Departments, Infrastructure, Education....It is all part of living in a civilized modern society. And a civilized society doesn't sit around and let people die, when they are capable of saving their lives....only uncivilized barbarians would do that.
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