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Old 12-09-2018, 04:29 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Originally Posted by MAGAalot View Post
Most Liberals would probably rather murder a Black Conservative politician than vote for him.
Its definitely the sharpest divide in America.

One which you’re actively trying to propagate.

Keep making absurd blanket-statements about liberals though, it doesn’t come off as the least bit forced.

 
Old 12-09-2018, 04:32 PM
 
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One which you’re actively trying to propagate.

Keep making absurd blanket-statements about liberals though, it doesn’t come off as the least bit forced.
If I was trying to propagate this idea, I'd do a lot more than ONE post on the subject in my entire posting history....
Plus it happens to be the thread subject.
 
Old 12-09-2018, 04:37 PM
 
Location: AZ
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If I was trying to propagate this idea, I'd do a lot more than ONE post on the subject in my entire posting history....
Plus it happens to be the thread subject.
It’s more than just one post, and the intention of this thread, as you’ve admitted, is to further a divide between liberals and conservatives.
 
Old 12-09-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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The problem with these black conservatives is that they buck dance for Donald Trump. The thing is this, the Republican party does not need blacks to win elections. Case in point Donald Trump. However their is no need for liberals to be racist against black conservatives. You have to call a spade a spade. It's OK to use the n word against black conservatives, but not OK to use the n word against black liberals or pro blacks. Liberals are funny. However. In today's times. I look at echo chambers with a kean eye and with cringe.

If black conservatives rules America. I will be a 2nd class citizens. Black conservatives will allow kkk to run amok. I might even be lynched due to my views. However if pro blacks back to Africa types with Egyptian tattoos saying we wuz kangz rules America. I will also be a 2nd class citizen in their civilization due to the fact I'm half white, and also because of my views. Such people will also have me lynched or shot in a firing squad. The white nationalist, the sjw will also have me imprisoned or executed for my views. I hope we can put a stop to these toxic echo chambers.
The buck dancing is quite obvious in many cases. One can have some conservative values without being a lap dog/lackey. There are Indeed Black conservatives who go the route of echoing what they think White conservatives want to hear. If anything, some Black conservatives have some White Republicans all wrong. I'm not speaking in absolutes here. I'm speaking of specific situations.

As for Republicans not needing Black votes to win elections, that has been the case. On the other hand, living in Georgia has taught me something. Republicans should at least try to appeal to Black voters. In Georgia, Blacks are 30% of the population. In a state of over 10 million people, that adds up to alot of Black people. This past gubernatorial election showed how dirty the Republican candidate was willing to be in order to win. Rather than try to appeal to Black voters, Brian Kemp violated conflict of interest by not stepping down as Secretary of State (they oversee elections and elections data). He was known for purging voters from voter rolls, most of whom still lived in Georgia. Most of those purged were Black voters. It is the Black conservative that overlooks that kind of behavior that I fear.

It depends on what kind of Black conservative you have. A Condoleezza Rice or Colin Powell won't be harmful to you. A Candace Owen or a Stacey Dash, I would beware. A James Manning? Watch out.

I do notice 2 kinds of Black conservatives. The "buck dancing" types and the "pro-Black" types. The 2nd type segues into a 3rd type: The "Quasi-Malcolm X " type of conservative. This type of conservative operates under this mentality: " Everyone is racist, so pick the racist who let's you know he/she is a racist. I pick the Republicans because at least they're honest about their racism".
 
Old 12-09-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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Most Liberals would probably rather murder a Black Conservative politician than vote for him.
Its definitely the sharpest divide in America.
Really? I have not seen any of that sentiment among most liberals I've been around.
 
Old 12-09-2018, 04:48 PM
 
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Why do liberals hate black conservatives or any person of color with conservative views? They call them Uncle Toms, Oreo, House negros, self hatred, sellout, shuck and jive, race traitors, Stockholm syndrome etc. but it makes no sense. Matter of fact I get accused of being a white poster which is pretty hilarious.

Are people of color allowed to hold conservative views? Are they allowed to hold their race accountable? Do their conservative views change the color of their skin? Last time I check prominent black conservatives Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Kanye West, Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, and Condi Rice were are still black.

I'm a black conservative and I'm proud. It means I don't depend on white guilt liberals to feed our house me. My own achievements are 100% dependent upon my on effort and hard work.

The liberal intolerance and and insults for minorities who align with conservatism is alarming.

Liberals will never change the minds of black conservatives like myself and Ben Carson. The expansion of liberal welfare polices have only hurt our community, turning an emergency welfare fund into way of life while subsidizing children born and raised without father figures.

This doesn't mean I need to vote Republican. This just means I have conservative views. City data liberals, please stop accusing conservative people of color of self-hatred. It's asinine.
I hear ya!

I'm of Hispanic descent and since I take a very hard line against illegal immigration, I've been called all sorts of names --- sellout, vendido, traitor---and have had vile things wished upon me.

Liberals think that anyone who is a minority has to be an automaton who constantly votes straight "D".

Per the bolded --- I, too, don't need to always vote republican. In fact, I voted for Bubba twice. Then the dems did a 180 and started putting illegals ahead of the millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed Americans. All that said, I would vote for a blue dog democrat over a RINO.
 
Old 02-12-2019, 03:47 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Liberals also believe that a person's race is the #1 part of their identity. I'm of Asian descent, but being a Christian, an American, and a Southerner are even more important to me than being an Asian American. Above all, religion is a major part of my life and guides my politics. As long as Democrats remain the party of abortion, I simply won't vote for them. There is no evil as great as that of abortion and I'm utterly sickened by the recent laws in New York and Virginia and the countless hidden videos with Planned Parenthood's people.

I'm also descended from LEGAL immigrants and have no sympathy for illegals. I know many Asian and Hispanic Americans who are legal and truly despise illegals. My LEGAL family sees it as a personal insult if any illegals get amnesty. What they deserve is deportation and no we don't blame Trump for the illegal kids' situation their parents are the ones to blame for this. We believe in keeping the families together by deporting all of them together. Oh yes and my ancestors escaped communism and socialism in China so no, we certainly are NOT on board with the AOC or Pocahontas agenda. Asians also don't benefit from affirmative action - and when an Asian person gets a job or into a school nobody questions whether they deserved it but in my circles sometimes when a black or Hispanic gets into a pretigious school, not that they automatically didn't deserve it, but the possibility that they're there because of affirmative action is always on our mind.

Didn't Obama himself admit benefiting from affirmative action? And Pocahontas of course
 
Old 02-12-2019, 04:14 PM
 
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No issues with black conservatives as long as they don’t start up with that Tomming foolishness.

JC Watts, Michael Steele, John McWhorter, Colin Powell, and recently Tim Scott, have shown that it’s posdible. I’m especially impressed with Tim Scott as of late.
 
Old 02-12-2019, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Originally Posted by green_mariner View Post

As for Republicans not needing Black votes to win elections, that has been the case. On the other hand, living in Georgia has taught me something. Republicans should at least try to appeal to Black voters. In Georgia, Blacks are 30% of the population. In a state of over 10 million people, that adds up to alot of Black people. This past gubernatorial election showed how dirty the Republican candidate was willing to be in order to win. Rather than try to appeal to Black voters, Brian Kemp violated conflict of interest by not stepping down as Secretary of State (they oversee elections and elections data). He was known for purging voters from voter rolls, most of whom still lived in Georgia. Most of those purged were Black voters. It is the Black conservative that overlooks that kind of behavior that I fear.
Referring to the bold - Leadership is about also serving those who didn't vote for you.
 
Old 02-12-2019, 10:01 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I don't think Brian Kemp cheated in the election. Of course some people claim the exact match laws in Georgia are "racist" because they disproportionately affect black people but there's no evidence they were written specifically to target blacks. Blacks statistically have lower educational and literacy levels and are more likely to not have their IDs in order but it doesn't make the law racist. Likewise maybe some Hispanic voters have had difficulty because of English ability.

However I do agree that Republicans should do more to appeal to Southern blacks especially as more Yankee transplants flood into the South. Most Southern blacks are still socially conservative and Christian unlike the Yankee transplants who are both socially AND economically liberal and support things like abortion and gay marriage. We need to appeal to legal Hispanics as well and counter the narrative that Republicans are "racist" just because we support the police and because we support border security and LEGAL immigration.

Glad so many Democrats are showing their true racist colors like Andrew Norsham with his racist photos and Rhashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar with their anti-Semitic comments. Now we also know that Omar is linked with Louis Farrakhan.
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