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Old 08-20-2018, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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They assaulted him first. He has a right to defend himself. It worked for Bundy.
So when police grabbed him, he was in danger? From whom?

 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:04 PM
 
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there is nothing to suggest that. If you just want to make things up, there is nothing to discuss.
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Old 08-20-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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They assaulted him first. He has a right to defend himself. It worked for Bundy.


Don’t do what he did. It won’t go very well for you
 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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So when police grabbed him, he was in danger? From whom?
Chicago's police force has been as corrupt that those who they are supposed to be policing. There are valid reasons the people are very wary.

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/06/...-their-rivals/

Should he have been less wary than Bundy?
 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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lol I meant show proof the police knew that at that time.
They didn't. That's why they were contacting him in the first place. Since Chicago isn't known for their law abiding citizens to be armed, it was reasonable to assume that he wasn't carrying legally. Had both parties were on the up and up, what would've happened was they detain him, ask for ID, Aigustus show ID indicating that he was in legal possession of the firearm and had a permit to carry it, police verify ID and permit, and send him on his way.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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They didn't. That's why they were contacting him in the first place. Since Chicago isn't known for their law abiding citizens to be armed, it was reasonable to assume that he wasn't carrying legally.
Again, that's not a legitimate reason.

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Had both parties were on the up and up, what would've happened was they detain him, ask for ID, Aigustus show ID indicating that he was in legal possession of the firearm and had a permit to carry it, police verify ID and permit, and send him on his way.
Agreed
 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Chicago's police force has been as corrupt that those who they are supposed to be policing. There are valid reasons the people are very wary.

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/06/...-their-rivals/
Agreed, But out in the open, with all those witnesses? He wasn't in danger.

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Should he have been less wary than Bundy?
Bundy doesnt have anything to do with his case. Quit deflecting, it's childish.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:18 PM
 
Location: USA
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The dude was activily trying to draw his weapon and shoot them. If you can manage to not draw on police, you should be good and not be shot.
That's a lie. You don't know what he was about to doModerator cut: trolling.

The guy was shot before he could do anything. He'd literally just been stopped unexpectedly and literally within the next 20 seconds (less actually) police are assaulting him. I'm sure a lot of people would've panicked, especially if carrying illegally.

You want to charge him for carrying concealed? Fine. There's a process for that.


Funny how its ok for the police to break the law, but this citizen who isn't sworn to uphold it, can't make the slightest mistake.


That area isn't always the safest. Could've been for protection not because he's a "thug." But nice of some posters to already make that assumption. Despite the actual community he lives in stating so (I forget City-data posters who aren't from areas know all about those areas).

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Old 08-20-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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They didn't. That's why they were contacting him in the first place. Since Chicago isn't known for their law abiding citizens to be armed, it was reasonable to assume that he wasn't carrying legally. Had both parties were on the up and up, what would've happened was they detain him, ask for ID, Aigustus show ID indicating that he was in legal possession of the firearm and had a permit to carry it, police verify ID and permit, and send him on his way.
You can not detain someone for doing something legal. It does not matter if few wish to undertake the legal activity.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:20 PM
 
Location: USA
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They didn't. That's why they were contacting him in the first place. Since Chicago isn't known for their law abiding citizens to be armed, it was reasonable to assume that he wasn't carrying legally. Had both parties were on the up and up, what would've happened was they detain him, ask for ID, Aigustus show ID indicating that he was in legal possession of the firearm and had a permit to carry it, police verify ID and permit, and send him on his way.
He didn't get the opportunity to do that. Did you watch the video? They grabbed him immediately after he began to show his FOID card to the officer.

And here's a heads up. "Thugs" don't register their guns in Chicago
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