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Did anybody read about the English Health care system this year? They had to cancel 25,000 surgeries to handle the flu. The normal wait to see a physician is four hours. The Times are worst since 2004 When they started keeping records
They've also put a permanent ban on non-critical surgeries (joint replacements, etc.) for smokers and/or the obese.
This is the problem. You are delusional like so many else who think they have more control over their health than they do. Most diseases and health issues can not be predicted.
That is SO not true. The World Health Organization estimates that 80% of all heart disease, stroke, and type 2 diabetes, as well as more than 40% of cancer, would be prevented if Americans would stop using tobacco, eat healthy, and exercise.
They've also put a permanent ban on non-critical surgeries (joint replacements, etc.) for smokers and/or the obese.
sounds like a great healthcare system! Obesity and smoking are prevalent among poor people. Cut them out of the healthcare game. Pick and choose who gets benefits.
sounds like a great healthcare system! Obesity and smoking are prevalent among poor people. Cut them out of the healthcare game. Pick and choose who gets benefits.
That's exactly what the UK is doing. Why? Cost controls. Smokers and/or the obese consume a highly disproportionate share of the health care budget appropriation. Why the poor continue to self-sabotage is beyond me. But not even the UK can afford to keep paying to subsidize them.
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That's exactly what the UK is doing. Why? Cost controls. Smokers and/or the obese consume a highly disproportionate share of the health care budget appropriation. Why the poor continue to self-sabotage is beyond me. But not even the UK can afford to keep paying to subsidize them.
The NHS does not have a ban on smokers or the obese, they may require someone to lose weight before an operation or to give up smoking but it does not constitute a ban on these people being treated.
It's a fairly sensible policy imho and your GP will offer diet advice and may even porescribe any obersity medication such as orlistat, whilst there is support to give up smoking, although smoking has already fallen dramatically over recent decades.
In actual fact the main strain on any medical system is the elderly who use health services more than any other group in society by a long way.
The irony is that smokers and the obese usually have shorter lives therefore in the longer term the savings in healthcare, social care, pension payments etc equal out.
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The NHS does not have a ban on smokers or the obese, they may require someone to lose weight before an operation or to give up smoking but it does not constitute a ban on these people being treated.
If they stop smoking and/or lose enough weight (as applicable), they can have the surgery. If they don't, their case goes to a review board which may or may not allow the surgery.
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In actual fact the main strain on any medical system is the elderly who use health services more than any other group in society by a long way.
That's why people here in the US pay Medicare premiums (FICA) for 40 years before they're eligible for Medicare benefits, and even after that still pay monthly premiums, deductibles, and copays.
Unless/ until you have an accident or are a victim of a violent crime.
Assuming you have been contributing to Medicare your entire working life, in 5+ years you will be eligible for Medicare. Your choice to enroll. Your choice to acquire GAP insurance to help pay for what Medicare does not.
I have my flight insurance when I fly, my auto insurance for driving. And my job of driving trains, well let’s just say anyone blocking tracks on a grade crossing will come out worse than me. Reminds me I received a radio call of track blockage by a car several miles ahead so I started slowing. Car was on the tracks. But since I was forewarned I stopped in time. Driver was sitting in the car smoking a joint. I said move the car and he glassily eyes me and said broke down. I said push it off the tracks or I will push it off using the engine of the lead unit. He pushed his car out of the way quite rapidly. Didn’t know stoners could move that quickly.
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If they stop smoking and/or lose enough weight (as applicable), they can have the surgery. If they don't, their case goes to a review board which may or may not allow the surgery.
This does not apply to life saving surgery and the key term here is dangerously overweight patients, as it's often not safe to carry out surgery on such patients.
It's not a big issue, and is mainly in relation to hip and knee surgery where weight is a geniune issue.
This does not apply to life saving surgery and the key term here is dangerously overweight patients, as it's often not safe to carry out surgery on such patients.
It's not a big issue, and is mainly in relation to hip and knee surgery where weight is a geniune issue.
in other words, a govt functionary decides what surgeries are appropriate and who gets them.
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