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Old 08-18-2018, 07:13 PM
 
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ABOLISH ALL WELFARE, ENTITLEMENTS, AND HANDOUTS.

Why do you leftists always advocate for theft of my income?
What about corporate welfare? Crickets? Big business is cleaning up on taxpayers backs. Who’s kidding who? Look and see how much we give to corporations a year.....
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Houston
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To a point. But if the jobs aren't out there, hunger will motivate people to do whatever they need to do to survive, ethical/legal or not.

If you've never been poor, then you can't fully understand this.
Right wingers like him never understand real world situations until they're on the wrong end of one. I've seen it happen countless times and will no doubt see it many more times. T-310 is no different. He only thinks he is.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Many poor people do work, or some may not be able to due to being disabled.
If minimum wage wasn’t crappy low there would have been less poor people.
The actual minimum wage is $0. For business owners it's negative infinity.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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What about corporate welfare? Crickets? Big business is cleaning up on taxpayers backs. Who’s kidding who? Look and see how much we give to corporations a year.....
Name one libertarian who's in favor of corporate welfare. Crickets.

In an anarcho-capitalist society corporations wouldn't exist, as they are creations of the State.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:23 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Absolutely, look at the birth rates in Fountain Valley and Scottsdale compared to Maryvale, Glendale and El Mirage.

America needs higher birth rates from upper-middle class families so they deserve programs that are tailored to them which could be revenue neutral by eliminate the safety-net for poor families.

Seems like poor families are having babies just for big, huge welfare checks from the federal, state and local governments.

Down the road in 2035, 2040, 2045 those Medicaid babies of today will likely be criminals, welfare, dealers and another cycle of poor people having babies thanks to safety-net for poor families.

We do need higher birth rates from upper-middle class though. Families from $100,000-$300,000 in my opinion should have the daycare vouchers, EBT, WIC ,utility assistance etc. instead of poor families who are just having baby after baby to get a massive increase in welfare programs.
Absolutely....low-brow: confirmed.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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What about corporate welfare? Crickets? Big business is cleaning up on taxpayers backs. Who’s kidding who? Look and see how much we give to corporations a year.....
Would rather corporations get welfare than poor families get welfare to have more babies they can't afford.

So many depressing poor cities these days filled with families with 3, 4 and 5 kids each.

Basically, these Medicaid babies being born like crazy are mainly going criminals, welfare, addicted to drugs and alcohol in the 2030s and 2040s when we need taxpayers to pay for baby boomers programs.

Better, to give incentives to upper-middle class households to have future upper-middle class taxpayers who will be able to support baby boomers social entitlement programs in the 2030s and 2040s.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:31 PM
 
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They do need to abolish the welfare for the rich. How many times are we going to give the top 1% tax breaks? Look at abolishing the corporate welfare it costs much more than welfare for people. Look at the politicians and how they can retire on a nice pension after only a few terms. Must be nice. They all seem to emerge much wealthier also. Wonder how that happens?
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Better, to give incentives to upper-middle class households to have future upper-middle class taxpayers who will be able to support baby boomers social entitlement programs in the 2030s and 2040s.
With what money? What if I don't consent?

How hard is it for you leftists to understand that taking my money without my consent is robbery?
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:35 PM
 
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It's time for Corporate America to locate more jobs where these poor live. Less reasons then to claim not enough jobs for them. Then hire more people with blemished histories. All want the fastest employees with good work histories and weed out slower workers.

Plenty of depressed areas with cheaper housing and decent schools. But less jobs created and what are a corporate market to hire no employees with past issues that rule them out from being hired..... even where there is more competition for the best lower-skilled workers living there. But the rest just have applications to work.... just disregarded due to their past troubles.

WE create this underclass in part this way. Many have physical and mental issues ..... but many able-bodied but blemished stories render them highly un-hirable by most businesses. Then you have the hire and fire business to keep a union threat low and all want the fastest workers. Many get graded by computers and is you only means to maintain employment, to missing days that get one fired. Many warehouses/distribution centers are like this.

Some with blemished histories .... must use temp agencies to gain employment. As some corporations will use temps supplying workers even with poor past histories and even criminal records. But never are employees of them companies the temp agency finds them work in and get NO BENEFITS. It becomes a separate but equal environment .... But they never can advance that way.

WHEN WILL EXTREMIST REALIZE ..... CORPORATE AMERICA DOES NOT WANT THESE PEOPLE WITH POOR HISTORIES OR VISIBLY NOT TO GRADE WITH PAST CONVICTIONS ALSO.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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Hunger is a great motivator to get a job.
How would YOU know? You know nothing but privilege and handouts. Back to your Ivory Tower funded by the Bank of Mom and Dad; a subsidiary of The Silver Spoon Trust Fund. I.M. Mohr Privlegedthanu, President
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