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The question the OP is asking is why we cant be more like Germany. More like Germany means that we have Medicare. Less than Germany would be to eliminate Medicare.
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No, again you're trying to reframe the argument. A binary choice (have /not have) was not the original statement and, moreover, is a dumb conversation. Again, see my prior post. The quality of the Universal Healthcare is the only conversation worth having, and that's precisely the frame that the OP used when he/she was comparing us to Germany.
Also, this thread is and my response was not only about healthcare. You're hijacking the thread to make it only about Healthcare.
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Expand Medicare means we become more like Germany.
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Not if that medicare is administrated and delivered differently, with different cash-flow efficiency, and differing care competency. Again, quality (like Germany) is what the original post was referring to. And, again, you can't have what is in Germany without being German (in Germany).
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Boosting Social Security means more like Germany.
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It can't look like Germany because we aren't Germans in Germany. Our population distribution is not the same in income, healthcare stats (and thus other tax base drains), crime stats (other tax base drains), military expenditure necessity, etc.
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And the reason why SS benefits are not increased or Medicare not expanded is not because of any race problem. Thats something you concoct in your mind.
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No it is not. That plays into administration efficiency, tax base funding, the healthcare demands on the system, corruption, and care competency.
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Even with almost 90% white population in America, we didnt have a strong public safety net. The most German state in the country, Wisconsin, just voted for a far right Koch brothers puppet who wants to eliminate the remaining safety net.
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Wisconsin isn't Germany either. Far from it. Moreover, most White societies don't need that safety net.
1. Such a "safety net" is only necessitated by the relatively recent insurance based inflation of medical costs. Thus, such Universal Healthcare
Insurance was never needed. Most White people, especially of the Germanic variety, are employed and can afford insurance.
2. They're also very good at community support, which cuts down on the need for State support. That they are is a primary reason why communists wish to fracture such communities with mass immigration.
3. In Europe, Universal Healthcare not driven by the needs of Germans but by the ideals of the philo-USSR communists that lead Germany and the European Union. Germany has not been allowed to evolve on its own since WWII. You don't know what Germany's social policy preferences would be without being essentially a neo-communist puppet state. As it stands, implementation of socialist policies in Germany has the net effect of what National Socialist policies would look like in Germany (well run, efficient systems), because it is mostly Germans implementing them. Bring in millions of Africans and watch that change.
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The reason we dont have a strong public safety net is because the ruling class who fund the puppets you vote for dont want that because it hurts their power, wealth and status.
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No, you are interpreting the situation wrong.
A large, monolithic, and internationalist (multicultural) state that the population depends on (ie: for Healthcare) is what all globalists (communists) want. It was easily implemented in Europe after the population was brought to its knees in WWII.
The reason that we don't have Universal Healthcare here is because this nation was / is problematically (for them) decentralized, with hundreds of millions of essentially conservative (anti-communist) White people, and at the same time still has a very stubborn cultural echo of independence culture left over from when it was injected into this nation's founding via revolutionary independence from England.
On top of that, when the NY Neocons in this nation decided that they didn't like their Leninist communist brethren losing Russia to Stalin, they embarked on a decades long campaign against (Stalin's) communism in this nation that we know as the cold war. You see its continuation in their anti-Russian zealotry today. American's are still programmed to reject socialist policies based on that anti-Russian effort of decades-past by the American Leninists.
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The working class just have to do without, because the power and status of the ruling class trumps everything else. Its like crack, they can never get enough wealth and power.
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They will.
Like other rank and file communists here, you think that you know where their interests lie. Thus, you think that they are voting against their interests. This is because you are trained, like all communists, to see the world primarily through an economic lens. That was always the central proposition of communists (except for the communists who began communism to destroy outside groups, and who correctly see the world through a cultural lens).
The American working class are largely not communist, and thus do not see the world through a primarily economic lens but through the traditional lens that is the true defining seed of all politics: the cultural lens.
Thus, they are happy to vote against your party and to watch your arrogant confusion that constantly asks why they are (seemingly) voting against their interests. Ironically enough, the only thing that this situation reveals is that your rank and file brothers and sisters do not understand politics.
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