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Old 08-22-2018, 06:02 AM
 
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The only polices that Trump has engaged is what he thinks will promote and restore white nationalism!!!! His incessant attack on anything and everything Obama achieved, is nothing more than an "aim at white nationalism", by the intent to erase anything and everything done by a man who was not white!!! People are not as dense are Republicans would like to think and certainly not as ate up with the desperation of want for White Nationalism and Confederate Policy Making.

One thing he certainly can't do, and that's the fact he can't stop the birth rate of non white in America, and he cannot stop the continual march of people who are non white and who are liberal minded white people from continuing to build a society that respect and appreciates Multi-Cultural Society!!!! The general and national media and cultural programs, organizations and institution across the nation depicts that fact "everyday"

He can try and rip any and every policy of what helps and benefit people, but he can't stay in office forever, and when the position changes from this bigoted racist mad man and his network, we will get a President who will restore the policies and programs that help people. When Republican are Out... we will get a President who will 'reinvigorate everything LBJ accomplished and set forth and one who will build upon the things Obama put in place and they will do so without a Republican Congress doing the damages they did to the works of Obama for the People of America.

What will come to be is the tarnish the White Right Wing Evangelicals brought upon themselves, will not be easily removed as they are "fully exposed"!!! The aims to try and reinforce and intensity "white privilege" will go up in flames, because America has far too many white people who now understand that "white privilege" is a detriment not only to American Democracy, it has been and is a gravely damaging ideal that has been an atrocity on every level of repressing the greatness that American can achieve.

System will change, where the "ideals and thinking" of a "Multicultural People" will expand the conscientiousness of American society. We will become a nation that changes how we educates and change how our financial system functions and we will change the ways to improve the equity of All Americans.

Elizabeth Warren just put forth a plan to do exactly that !!!!

The nation has witnessed one of the worst criminally treasonous and most belligerent and corrupt men in the world occupying our Office of Presidency. In less than 2 yrs he has cost American many $Trillions of losses and damages, not just in American society today, but to the generation yet to come, and damaged economics around the globe, with his trade wars, while wreaking havoc and madness that again cost $Trillions to the world in his attacks on our allied nations. He has damaged "diplomacy" in ways that it may take decades to rebuild.

America will rebuild it, but it will pay a cost for what it has done, and in rebuilding diplomacy, it also will change how American relates with the world and how the world reciprocates with America. It will not have the same stature to push and promote and invoke Imperialist Agenda upon other nations. It has to "grow up" and become a nation among nations that work forward once this imbecilic buffoon is removed, to be a nation that learns the meaning and value of "cooperative endeavors" in a truer sense of the meaning. Power has continued to shift and the rabid aims to try and recreate the past on an International Level will not succeed!!!

Middle East

The instability in the Middle East caused by American involvement and Invasions into the region by the acts engaged in Iraq and the ultimate devastation of Iraq, has changed many ideals of ways and life to embolden the people of the region never to succumb to Imperialist Agenda nor to allow encroachments by the pretense to help. We can look at Saudi Arabia, and its works to make changes, not only in the lives of women and people in the region, but in how they structure to deal with the future that goes beyond "oil". They are well aware that Oil gave them wealth, but it also gave them much challenges in the region, and they are "diversifying". They understand Capitalism, but they also under that they have to build different for their people, and in doing so, it cannot avoid changing how its ideology must move from the stoicism of a restrictive ideology by a authoritarian religiosity. To one that interpret the religious ideology in ways that have no choice but to move toward human rights respect of individuals. We may not see in it our lifetime of what it becomes, but in the age of technology and information, it cannot remain the same, not can it go backwards in any ways to represses the human spirit and the minds of the people.
They have no idea that "The Age of the Woman", will bring with it a change in everything, because when women are educated, they educate and change how their children view and see the world.
These nations have seen massive brutality and massive death by vile.. and that is a driver than forces a change in ideology.

China and the Asian Nations

America no any other force can stop the forward advances of China, and cannot stop the growth of Asian Nation, they now hold the "Industrial Might" and they use that power to generate great wealth, while their outreach is done by "Cooperative Agreements", NOT "Imperialist Agenda". That is a "paradigm shift in world ideology". That shift reshapes how the world interacts.

The World Economics

Countries are closely reviewing the element of "Reserve Currency" as well as "World Banks Systems". The entire world knows that America carries Debt, that is equal to its GDP. "United States Gross Federal Debt to GDP" - America DOES NOT have the Industry to work itself out of this bind, and under this Administration of Trump Madness, it is trying to rebuild a past, and has no Idea that America's Challenge and Means to Rebuild and Grow is and will only be found in "Building New and Building For The Future" !!!

Technology and Innovation wrapped in and Ever Growing of Information Expansion, cannot go backwards, as a nation cannot unlearn what is being learned. Its like the Horse and Buggy vs the Automobile... Once the Automobile became the mode of transportation, there was not reverse back to the Horse and Buggy, now matter how much they tried to improve the buggy or how many horses they attached to it. It was no match for the performance and mobility efficiency of the Automobile. It changed the world!!!

Conservatism will die a horrible death!!

It is rooted in trying to recreate a past, that has been generation removed from the many levels and expanse of vile it seeks to reconstitute.
As I said in a previous post:
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God's world has never gone backwards, Nor will it ever. The aims and intent to do so, is an aim and attempt to recreate the evil of bias, bigotry, racism and malice minded greed by any means. All such things are an abomination against the premise of Gods Truth, which is ... the world moves forward, and in doing so, is designed that man correct his wrongs and repent from pursuing and doing the wrongs of the past.
Those who claim they have been left behind, and claim to be forgotten, act and think such, because they chose to seek to recreate the past, instead of prepare themselves to address and enjoin the future, have been their own worst enemy.
The historical madness of such presentation of "white nationalism" no longer is the dominant image seen in the wide spread imagery of the media, nor is it to ever be seen in such saturation in American society, business nor industry in the future. Multi-Cultural interactive cooperation is seen expanding everyday. From the lingo, the melding of cultural styles and social interactions are in an advancing melding that cannot revert back to any assumption or delusion of "white imagery" as being the model for society.
The young today, they are researchers, they know the vile of the past, and they live with the glutton it has caused and the havoc and devastation it has spread. When they research, they seek out the truths, and in doing so, they expose the malice and the madness, because they have "INFORMATION" at their finger tips. They cannot be made to believes in a "white washed version", nor in the "sanitized versions that tries to cover up the damages caused by the insanity and vile of white nationalism and they are fully aware to face the damages caused in its pursuit of white superiority and they no longer will support nor promote white dominance.

America has always "marched forward" from the vile of its past, generation by generation, it has moved forward to dismantle the inhumanity from the long path of dissolving the inhumane vile of slavery, to the abusive assaults and madness of segregationist systems, to the struggles of dealing with a society, that has tried by every means to promote covert and overt means of disenfranchisement and degradation of people who are non white.

Everyday People, work together, they shop and live in cultural environments sharing space and interacting and they grow and learn with commonality in how they do so. That's can't be made to go backwards by any forces within the society of America.

What we are witnessing is the "Rage of Madmen and Fools", "Liars' and Cheater", "Traitors and Swindlers", and the "Clawing and Scratching vested behind the ramblings of a Fool", we see the aims to attack not only the Laws of the "Land and the Systems of Governance", all demonstrating nothing more than an "Assaults Upon and Against The Democracy of a Nation and its People". All for a system of vile that has a history of damages to people and nation.

Such an Evil shall never prevail to take down a nation and send it backwards.

As quoted before:
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“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
Mahatma Gandhi
The people see clearly within the despair being endured within and across the nation, caused by this mad man and his collective of fools, that such vile is detestable to the masses, and people know that the way of truth will prevail.

Guilliani's ignorance and madness of claiming "Truth is not Truth"... is embraced only by "fools"... and they must now face and come to terms with having been and being such fools. ( yes they will fight like a the wilds of a rabid animal, but as with what becomes rabid, too dies of its rabid condition. They either change their hearts and minds and become 'humane and equality respecting beings" or they are consumed by the rabid condition that will do what rabies does. They can be healed, but only by the embrace of a dignity that respects the equality among mankind. Will they make the choice is up to the "individual"?

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Old 08-22-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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If you are discussing family ties you may have missed a close one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump

His uncle was nothing less than brilliant. Like Einstein/Tesla brilliant with a list of accomplishments that boggles the mind.
That is Trumps paternal uncle, having the same parents as Trumps father.
Yeah, he's mentioned his uncle before.

"Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."
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Old 08-22-2018, 08:05 AM
 
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Ah, but you forget, in court, it isn't Trumplandia where you just say stuff and it happens. There has to be proof that the different statement was intended as a lie to deceive or hamper investigators instead of a different understanding of the situation. This is why, as many posters have said, perjury is very difficult to get a conviction on. There has to be provable intent to deceive, not just a he said-she said.
Ah, but you forget, the Special Counsel isn't bound by any proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard if he alleges Trump committed perjury. All Mueller has to do is catch a provable false statement by Trump and call it perjury, or a lie.

Though Giuliani is mocked for the 'truth isn't truth' flub, his big point was correct. It doesn't take much for a prosecutor to allege a witness lied or committed perjury, though formal charges aren't filed. Bill Clinton never was criminally indicted for perjury though Starr accused him of multiple perjuries.
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Old 08-22-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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Just a thought...


If one conducts himself in such a way to not attract microscopic scrutiny from the highest levels of law enforcement, then lying under oath just isn't a concern.


But that's simply not applicable in this case.




So in your scenario the "truth IS the truth". Interesting.
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So in your scenario the "truth IS the truth". Interesting.
Call me old fashioned.

And a FORMER Republican.

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Old 08-22-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Thats stupid and naive considering the line the questioning often takes, which is what did you know and when did you know it and who else did you tell it to. A faulty recollection can lead to perjory and even if you arent a liar they may just keep asking questions in different ways until you trip up.
BS. I've been deposed a number of times with one question asked 32 different ways and its really not that hard to avoid getting tripped up.


Know how?


Tell the freakin truth. You're under oath.


Duh.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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BS. I've been deposed a number of times with one question asked 32 different ways and its really not that hard to avoid getting tripped up.


Know how?


Tell the freakin truth. You're under oath.


Duh.
The problem is that Trump couldn't tell the truth even if he tried.
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Old 02-02-2019, 06:48 PM
 
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Trump is now saying that Rudy is not telling the truth.
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