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Old 08-20-2018, 10:24 AM
 
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Double standards are on the way out and are already gone with regards to sexual harassment and sexual assault. That is a good thing, regardless of whether some people in our country realize it, or accept it, or not.
They are still alive and well in our countries universities but they don't have the explicit support of the DOE anymore.
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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While legally it may be sexual assault, I'm just not feeling it. He was seventeen not thirteen. The creepy part was she played his mom in what appears to be a disgusting movie, when he was a young kid.

But you can tell she is creepy just by her twitter posting history.
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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While legally it may be sexual assault, I'm just not feeling it. He was seventeen not thirteen. The creepy part was she played his mom in what appears to be a disgusting movie, when he was a young kid.

But you can tell she is creepy just by her twitter posting history.
Thankfully the laws do not regard one's feelings.

Unfortunately, the enforcement of laws tend to take feelings into account.
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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What can be said ? This is yet another example of the double standards championed by a bunch of hypocrites.



The #metoo movement brought attention to terrible abuses by all sorts of people that should know better then to use their power, money and influence to take advantage of someone but guess what it is still going on.





I wonder if someday the Left will drop the Racism attacks that can utterly destroy someones career and life for merely uttering the naughty taboo "N" word? I doubt it that one still gets their base moving.
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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And you have to wonder, did her husband, Anthony Bourdain know this dirty little secret before he killed himself? Such a troubling can of worms this all opens up.

Now there is an interesting question.

I can't image him not knowing about it and knowing that the day would come when this would all be revealed to the public.
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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"Me too" isn't just about women being abuse. Look what happened to Kevin Spacey. If this actress took advantage of a boy under the age of 18 - then she probably should have kept her mouth shut about Weinstein.
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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Are you telling me a human being is hypocritical? It is in all of us, even in the identity politics cause celebre of the moment. What all should be outraged about more so is the ongoing epidemic-like insanity of instantaneous outrage .

It is tearing the fabric of us in the U.S., if not the world, apart. For what gain? What real gain?
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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If these allegations are true, they should preclude his serving as AG. And yes, Dem honchos AND many Dem voters wouldn't care--they generally circle the wagon.

However, where was this woman when Ellison was a congressman ?
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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Now there is an interesting question.

I can't image him not knowing about it and knowing that the day would come when this would all be revealed to the public.
There is of course a double standard. If he knew he probably didn't think it was a big deal because he may have been with an older woman when he was a teenager, an experience not so rare it seems. I guess it is a thing, I don't get it from the woman's perspective. But I could see an older man, even a liberal one, not thinking this is really a #metoo.
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Old 08-20-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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I don't think anyone is surprised. Heck, didn't we all watch that movie with Demi Moore.

#metoo happens in all directions...old to young, young to old, all 27 genders (thanks, Sasha!), etc.

She (OP woman) is as stupid as Trump and Trump voters - that is, preaching morality, ethics, honesty in government, lower debts and deficits when they are complicit in the opposite.....

At the minimum, any "movements" (other than of the bowel type) should make 100% certain their leaders are pure as the driven snow. Of course, that's tough in an era when the Church is most likely to abuse your children (other than your own family members)....

No, it doesn't change anything about Trump. He's a cheatin and lying sack of chit. A puzzy grabber and probably much worse...and, to be elected by the "Self-Righteous Moral Majority" is just as strange as it always was.

But whatabout???

The problem with deniers of anything is that they don't know how to count. That is, I think most sane people know that women get hit on 100X as much as men and are probably likely to be the targets of sexual abuse (or lesser crime) at a rate far exceeding any other demographic.

Stuff like that does matter.

I mean - c'mon. What 17 year old Red Blooded American Man wouldn't.....well, we don't go there!

Note - this "liberal" has always known that #meetoo and all the other stuff ends up going too far. That's the nature of such things. I can only thank the lord that I was raised at a time when I could just walk up to my 16 and 17 yo counterparts and ask outright! If they said no, we laughed and talked about other things. I finally scored and I am still married to her 45 years later. No cheating either...although I never use that as a point of self-righteousness because I truly believe that it could have happened and that anyone is subject to the same thing. Anyone. Everyone.

But...I do have a bit of self-discipline. Just a little...probably more than the average...cheater.

BTW, in the arena of #metooo - when I was 14 a guy who picked me up hitchhiking tried to grab my crotch.
When I was 16 I was put in Juvy for a night for pot...threatened with forced anal sex (yes, that is what happens in most jails and in juvyy...just FYI for all you law and order types)...luckily, the guard responded to my pleas and put me in a lone cell.

An interesting aside to all of that is that it turned out my Dad had told the cops to leave me overnight (he could have taken me home that evening...as he was called and knew).....so, can you imagine if I would have been raped and worse because my dad wanted to teach me a little lesson about pot.

My entire life would have been changed. I love my Dad...but this is an example of how things are very different than what we might imagine.
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