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I would hope the difference in the wages would go to partially offset the cost of running the prison.
The work that a lot of inmates do is what goes to offset part of the cost of running the prison. They can do woodworking and sell it at a store, they can do auto repair, they grow gardens that helps feed themselves, and then you have the dishwashers, food preparers, cleaners, groundskeepers, etc. That eliminates the need for any outside help to come in and maintain the...compound, I'll call it.
The fact is, jobs are not for everyone who goes into prison. Jobs have to be earned. They are highly coveted. As someone said, all these people have is time, and most of them decide to work because they have nothing else to do. Yes, they can earn a little bit of money, but it's not a right in the prison system. It's a privilege based on good behavior.
These tools who want to protest are going to find that not only will they not get their higher wages, they will probably lose their jobs and those jobs will be given to other prisoners.
No one in prison "deserves" a job or minimum wage or higher. Not. A. One.
Quite surprised by the harshness of the responses in this thread. I thought I was one of the few prison "hawks" around.
Prison is meant, in my book, to be prison. You get locked up. All day; every day. In a cell. It has a metal sink. A metal john. And a metal bed with possibly a thin mattress. Chances are you will die of insanity, disease or assault if you are in for any period longer than a year or two.
That ought to be a deterrent. Prison should be a deterrent. Either way you will no longer be a threat to society.
Other countries have a brtter system though.You confine someone like an animal, your gonna get someone worst off than when they went in. And thats why we have such a huge recidivism rate.
Other countries, prisoners are still locked up but its made to keep them from society, but also give them something to do and possibly expand their minds and leave prison with a better perspective and a better person.
Someone goes in a gang member, they’re exposed to something they never had before, like music or something, they have a different outlet to channel their anger and see theirs something greater than the life they were leading.
Even lifers can benefit which in turn benefits the prison/gaurds/and society when inmates are released.
Becomes less of a hellhole and more of a place where people are punished by being isolated but actually could learn a lesson and leave better people.
How has the most powerful nation on earth not figure that out yet? Well then theres the prison industrial complex.
Prison jobs should at least pay the federal minimum wage but like you said no one cares because they are prisoners.
I'd be OK with that if we then charged them for the cost of their incarceration. Seems like I read $75k a year. Apply that as a debt they owe when released from prison-with their wages deducted from that.
Do you know how easy it is to be arrested in this police state. They are not the enemy, the people butchering children are.
Damn near impossible to get sentenced to prison, without multiple arrests and convictions-or a particularly vile crime. Even then it's rare enough-and far too often scumbags are released on parole after minimal sentences.
Good strategy, surely we have liberals out there who will fall for this strike and demand minimal wage salaries for convicted felons from their elected representatives.
I think every prisoner should be enlisted in the U.S. military. You won't have discipline problems since the the military will simply put you in an unsurvivable situation if you prove troublesome. Minor infractions are dealt with via things that you could never get away with for prisoners--being kept awake for 4-7 days at a time, physical "training" that would be considered torture, that type of thing.
These prisoners will quickly find out how bad life can be: having absolutely no rights (legal, civil, or human), having what little money you are paid extorted from you for your superior's slush fund, working ultra-stressful 18 to 20 hour days for months at a time because of understaffing, having absolutely NO days off (no weekends or holidays or anything) for either of the two 105-day underwater submarine patrols per year, finding out that what the military promised you is a joke but what you promised the military is signed in blood (and infinitely worse than you were told), etc.
They're just criminals demanding they be treated the same as law abiding citizens. If they didn't want to be making twenty cents an hour then they shouldn't have broken the law.
If people don’t like the drug laws in this country, don’t break the law, or move.
Thats not the American way, the drug laws are unconstitutional. As American citizens, if our Govt creates unconstitutional laws, we are REQUIRED to disobey/ NOT comply.
Our nation was founded basically due to a violent overthrow of a sitting govt, if they didnt win that war, all the patriots we celebrate as patriots today, would have went down in history as terrorists, traitors, criminals instead....something to think about!
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My understanding is they do simple jobs like printing license plates, sanitation work, tutor, barbershop, laundry, admin work, food prep, etc. obviously only for the very good prisoners.
Their demands are nonetheless hilarious. Imagine prisoners in Mexico, Brazil, Russia, or China asking for higher wages
I would have thought sometype of work would get them out of their cells and would be a positive thing, plus from my understanding many are paid for some types of work.
They don't have to work, they can sit in their cells for 23 hours a day if they so wish, it's entirely up to them and it's hardly slavery.
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Some prisoners train dogs. Some prisoners are helping to fight the California wildfires.
If I was a priosoner I would jump at the opportunity to do those type of things, as both sound much better than sitting in a prison cell, and such trusted jobs would also look good on any parole application.
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