Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 08-21-2018, 05:19 PM
 
4,559 posts, read 1,418,221 times
Reputation: 1919

Advertisements

Forgot about him. Maybe that is who trump was referring to with his trashy " rat" comment regarding the Nixon guy who acted on his conscious.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-21-2018, 05:19 PM
 
37,315 posts, read 59,504,574 times
Reputation: 25330
Quote:
Originally Posted by bawac34618 View Post
Trump is a means to an end for Trump supporters. All they care about is getting SCOTUS justices that will reverse Roe v Wade and Obergefell v Hodges as well as halt other socially progressive cultural movements (like cannabis legalization). They want anti-LGBT laws and laws that promote cultural Christianity. They want to a literal interpretation of the Second Amendment. They want public policy that pushes climate change as a hoax. They get that with Pence. I don't understand why, with the house of cards collapsing, that Trump supporters are still so invested. Is it just because they like his bullying, hateful rhetoric?
Yes
There are two groups. Or maybe subsets

A. You have the religious right----Pence and the anti-abortion groups that would love to do away with public education that excluded religious schools and other religious aspects of Consitution separation of church and state, want the courts packed with jurists that are pro-church over Constitution...

B. Then you have the alt-right racists like David Duke and the other slithy toves that are activated like sea monkeys when Trump brings out the white power memes and anti-immigration rhetoric and they are not necessarily religious at all or could come from any religious background...

And then you have the ones that are both--evangelicals/religious who think African Americans are the sons/descendants of Ham in the Old Testimate who were condemned by God to be servants and considered unclean...
They combine the worst of both groups IMO...
And right now there seems lot more of AB/B than just A
Because NONE of the evangelicals or church ministers for Trump have come out against Trump because of Charlottesville or his immigration policies....

Where are the evangelicals/religious groups that HAVE come out against Trump because of anything if they supported him during the campaign--
Which ones have backtracked away from supporting Trump?
Haven't seen/heard any....

Now there are religious groups who did not support Trump and who have come out against him but now sure if they were initially supportive and then retracted...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2018, 05:20 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
6,610 posts, read 3,634,734 times
Reputation: 6380
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Bear View Post
Actually this deal is with Federal Prosecutors, but it does have implications for the Manafort and the Mueller investigations.


The Donald's number of friends is getting smaller, and people VERY close to him who know everything about him have now turned, or are about to turn (assumes Manafort is guilty on all, or nearly all, charges) states evidence.


Donald had a chance to tell the truth, but he chose to lie. That was a poor decision, it seems.


Now things will spiral quite quickly. Truth can be truth, sometimes.
Yeah, but he will still have his friends on C D.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Limbo
6,514 posts, read 7,510,749 times
Reputation: 6319
Quote:
Originally Posted by EuropeanLoyalist View Post
You think he picked Kavanaugh for no reason? That it was CHANCE? There were MORE conservative judges on his list yet he picks a guy who's opinions state he doesn't believe a President can be charged or indicted while president. Its a chess game and leftists and the rest who hate America are losing badly...
So we have moved onto the the 'he's guilty' portion of it, but it's cool because he can get away with it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2018, 05:22 PM
 
37,315 posts, read 59,504,574 times
Reputation: 25330
Quote:
Originally Posted by take57 View Post
Cohen's lawyer Lanny Davis just threw Trump under the bus on Twitter:

"Today he stood up and testified under oath that Donald Trump directed him to commit a crime by making payments to two women for the principal purpose of influencing an election. If those payments were a crime for Michael Cohen, then why wouldn't they be a crime for Donald Trump?"
I think the SDNY might be little upset w/Mr. Davis--
But he is a personal attorney for Cohen--not a SDNY prosecutor
And Trump should see the gloves are off...
There is lot more dirt Cohen knows on Trump---
State law violations and likely Federal ones as well

Guiliani is going to have a stroke handling this...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
5,277 posts, read 2,775,903 times
Reputation: 1932
Cohen has pled guilty to 5 counts of tax evasion which means millions of $ of back taxes and fines will be collected.

How much of Ken Star's expenses were recouped?

Like one used dress? Not even that.

Mueller's total investigation will net bring millions more than expenses.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2018, 05:23 PM
 
13,153 posts, read 21,692,045 times
Reputation: 14029
Quote:
Originally Posted by take57 View Post
Cohen's lawyer Lanny Davis just threw Trump under the bus on Twitter:

"Today he stood up and testified under oath that Donald Trump directed him to commit a crime by making payments to two women for the principal purpose of influencing an election. If those payments were a crime for Michael Cohen, then why wouldn't they be a crime for Donald Trump?"
Well, there it is. Trump committed a felony.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2018, 05:23 PM
 
Location: In the desert
4,049 posts, read 2,727,418 times
Reputation: 2483
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
But of course. So when will the GOP step up and impeach him?
We will hear moths flutter their wings as usual with them. It's not about country it's about their political careers. I will remember this at voting time.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2018, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
5,277 posts, read 2,775,903 times
Reputation: 1932
Quote:
Originally Posted by take57 View Post
Cohen's lawyer Lanny Davis just threw Trump under the bus on Twitter:

"Today he stood up and testified under oath that Donald Trump directed him to commit a crime by making payments to two women for the principal purpose of influencing an election. If those payments were a crime for Michael Cohen, then why wouldn't they be a crime for Donald Trump?"
But Michael is a good man. A very good man. He is being treated badly. Worse than Capon!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2018, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
23,795 posts, read 13,155,282 times
Reputation: 19951
Quote:
Originally Posted by bawac34618 View Post
Trump is a means to an end for Trump supporters. All they care about is getting SCOTUS justices that will reverse Roe v Wade and Obergefell v Hodges as well as halt other socially progressive cultural movements (like cannabis legalization). They want anti-LGBT laws and laws that promote cultural Christianity. They want a literal interpretation of the Second Amendment. They want public policy that pushes climate change as a hoax. They get that with Pence. I don't understand why, with the house of cards collapsing, that Trump supporters are still so invested. Is it just because they like his bullying, hateful rhetoric?
It's a cult thing. And yes, some people want an authoritarian tyrant-type to tell them what to do, what to think, etc. They believe bullying crude behavior makes them strong leaders. People without power hand over their will to someone they think is 'strong.'

Why did those women stick by Charlie Manson? Why did Jonestown cult commit suicide just because Jim Jones told them to? Why did David Koresh's followers die for him? All of these leaders were obviously lunatics, and yet people followed them over the cliff. Trump is a crook and a lunatic, and it is becoming more difficult not to see that. Let's see how it goes over in November.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top