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To not be a felony, Trump lawyers would have to prove that the hush money payments were not related to the campaign. Since the payments were within months of the 2016 election, that’s a pretty big bar to cross.
On the other hand, if Trump has been paying off bimbos for years, and that was documented, he could probably get away with it, saying it was an action not related to the campaign but to avoid negative publicity for his business brand or reputation.
It’s clear though that he will not be impeached over any crime he may have committed, unless there is a massive shift in the Congressional balance of power. If Trump is re-elected in 2020, he will escape prosecution because he outdid be untouchable until after the statute of limitation for the alleged crime expires. If he is not re-elected in 2020, he could be in legal jeopardy.
And you voted for Hillary, so you want him to be guilty, and you want it to implicate Trump. Too bad. He isn't guilty, and there is nothing that implicates Trump.
And you voted for Hillary, so you want him to be guilty, and you want it to implicate Trump. Too bad. He isn't guilty, and there is nothing that implicates Trump.
Sure I think Trump is probably culpable of a campaign violation regarding the payoffs. And likely other things as well.
Ultimately of course, it doesn't matter what I think, it comes down to what a prosecutor can prove to a jury's satisfaction.
I can tell you one thing though, if Trump's culpability is not upheld in a court of law, I will shrug and move on. I won't be bringing it up a decade after the fact.
So Trump used his own money to pay off two women he had affairs with, but he didn’t know until a later date that the women were paid off with his own money?
I doubt Trump had affairs with these women. They are not trustworthy. They are prostitutes. Donald Trump is said to be a "germophobe." It's highly unlikely that he would be consorting with prostitutes! Think about that.
Secondly ...do you seriously think Donald Trump needs to be fooling around with prostitutes? Look at Melania. He doesn't need prostitutes when he can have a woman like Melania! give me a break.
These stories have been concocted by the mainstream media, who hate Trump. He, like other celebrities, has been victimized by Daniels (and probably others) because he is a celebrity, and he is rich. These people get paid off (hush money), because to go after them legally would be expensive, drag on for many months, and possibly be ruinous to careers and businesses.
Why do you think Congress has a "slush fund" (recently revealed) for such purposes?
I doubt Trump had affairs with these women. They are not trustworthy. They are prostitutes. Donald Trump is said to be a "germophobe." It's highly unlikely that he would be consorting with prostitutes! Think about that.
I have thought about it, but like many other things Trump it makes little sense. Why did his attorney pay them off if Trump never had anything to do with them? Besides, prostitutes offer services other than physical contact. Watching comes to mind. Of course, I (thankfully) know nothing about Trump's proclivities. Just pointing out that your thinking has not taken all the possibilities into account.
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Secondly ...do you seriously think Donald Trump needs to be fooling around with prostitutes? Look at Melania. He doesn't need prostitutes when he can have a woman like Melania! give me a break.
You apparently know little about men if you think that has anything to do with it. A guy who is into "trophies" doesn't care if he's already got a perfectly good one at home. He wants more.
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These stories have been concocted by the mainstream media, who hate Trump. He, like other celebrities, has been victimized by Daniels (and probably others) because he is a celebrity, and he is rich. These people get paid off (hush money), because to go after them legally would be expensive, drag on for many months, and possibly be ruinous to careers and businesses.
Why do you think Congress has a "slush fund" (recently revealed) for such purposes?
Oh, poor, poor Trump. His admitted *****-grabbing leads prostitutes to think they can extort him. What a helpless, unexpected victim he is.
Unfortunately, I don't think we've heard the last of Trump's proclivities. I'm sure that in another year, we'll both know many things we wish we didn't know.
I get your policy concerns that don't support your political ideology -- but all of this has nothing to do with that.
I don't want any of that either but I don't believe in tariffs, the wall and I do believe in criminals being charged -- illegal or not.
But none of this has to do with that.
Trump does not represent the opportunity for the USA to reach its greatness.
He just doesn't.
And all of this is evidence of that.
Doesn't mean I support socialism, blah blah blah.
In my view, what this is about is a segment of the populace that did not get its way and it is throwing a tantrum over it, engaging in a witch hunt, and generally grasping for straws.
All of these things that are suddenly so horrible that Trump has done, truth be known, has been a regular thing for pretty much all politicians since the beginning. What bothers me is that it suddenly matters and it did not before. this hooker garbage? The Stormy thing? What crap. Willy was doing interns on the White House desk and nobody cared. And actually, I don't care either. Like I said, what drives me nuts is that any of this stuff suddenly matters and it didn't before.
Personally, I don't care if Trump is humping hookers every night under the dome and babbling like an ape all day long. So what? ALL that matters to me is what policies are being enacted or disposed of which affect me personally or the populace on a daily basis. I don't care what Trump says, what he does personally, and who he sleeps with. I care what LAWS he enacts. That's what affects me. Not Stormy or Hookers or Tweets.
I don't believe in tariffs either. But I can't expect that I will like everything a president does. I do believe in the wall--if I can't go into their country illegally without rotting in prison, then they shouldn't be able to come into mine illegally.
Mainly what I am after is the government staying out of my life and my pocketbook as much as possible. Since that has been happening to a greater extent over the past two years than it has over the previous 20 years... I'm fairly happy. I'm anti-tyranny and I believe that I don't owe you anything and you don't owe me anything. Trump has been going in that direction... so again, I'm fairly happy right now. Beyond that, what he does personally is of no concern to me. A campaign violation is certainly of no importance to me. There probably has never been a president that DIDN'T do such things. Some just hide it better than others. ALL politicians are snakes and not to be trusted.
The FEC reviews the violations and determine the seriousness of the crime, the intent, etc.
It doesn't matter you don't think it should work that way - that's how it works.
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Again -- FEC made up of both parties and they review all the violations.
So, why isn't Boob Mueller sending the matter to the FEC?
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