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Old 09-09-2018, 09:38 AM
 
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Tariff's, bail outs, Social Security, Medicare, roads, military, etc. It's long been implemented here.
Yes, agree, but you know that is NOT what this person is talking about. I disagree with both.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:41 AM
 
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Socialism is a wide term, there is authoritarian socialism which is not something I care for. There is other free forms of socialism such as anarcho-syndicalism which takes place at the grassroots level, not the state level. It has worked before and it will work again.
This is called deflection.

Address why you don't just pick up and move. You know the system you want exists elsewhere, you don't like the system we have here. Why are you so uninterested in taking the obvious step to get you to where you want to be when you know the current state in the US will likely never get there.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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This is called deflection.

Address why you don't just pick up and move. You know the system you want exists elsewhere, you don't like the system we have here. Why are you so uninterested in taking the obvious step to get you to where you want to be when you know the current state in the US will likely never get there.
There is no anarcho-syndicalist society (even the Zapatistas are in dangerous territory being as the government wants to destroy them). I’ll do my best to turn this country into one by supporting worker-cooperatives and building a workers run society.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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There is no anarcho-syndicalist society (even the Zapatistas are in dangerous territory being as the government wants to destroy them). I’ll do my best to turn this country into one by supporting worker-cooperatives and building a workers run society.
Could have sworn you gave me lists of them before, but admittedly I usually lose interest half way through what you write.

But find the closest version and go there, you have better chances that way.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Could have sworn you gave me lists of them before, but admittedly I usually lose interest half way through what you write.

But find the closest version and go there, you have better chances that way.
Most were destroyed by outside forces. It’s no longer a country by country scenario.

There is some movement within the Cleveland area and other rust belt areas to form their own work spaces outside of state and private influence: https://community-wealth.org/content...mmunity-wealth
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Could have sworn you gave me lists of them before, but admittedly I usually lose interest half way through what you write.

But find the closest version and go there, you have better chances that way.
Far better.

In general, Americans prefer our system, and have for centuries.
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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Most were destroyed by outside forces. It’s no longer a country by country scenario.

There is some movement within the Cleveland area and other rust belt areas to form their own work spaces outside of state and private influence: https://community-wealth.org/content...mmunity-wealth
So when are you moving to Cleveland?
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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So when are you moving to Cleveland?
Never, that was just an example. I'll gladly start my own workers cooperative though. Soon the need for the state or the private industry will disappear.
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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Never, that was just an example. I'll gladly start my own workers cooperative though. Soon the need for the state or the private industry will disappear.
OK, whats your plan? Did you start already, if not when do you start? Whats the business model? I want to hear the details.
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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OK, whats your plan? Did you start already, if not when do you start? Whats the business model? I want to hear the details.
We’ll be building self sustaining houses in Guatemala (in places where the state nor the private industry supplies support).
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