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Old 08-23-2018, 09:19 PM
 
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By colluding with Russians,
You must have gotten him confused with the DNC / Clinton who paid for Kremlin disinformation to kick of this witch hunt.

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massive campaign finance violations,
Like Obama?

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and a litany of crimes.
Seems non-specific. Like you want to say something impactful, but have nothing.

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He'll be imprisoned in due time.
He won't.

And going on your disposition toward all of this, it seems totally not like a witch hunt. How could the conservatives be so wrong about that?
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:26 PM
 
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Not surprised. Trump's numbers are tanking at the same time.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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The fact that 12 unbiased ordinary citizens sided with Mueller's team in this case clearly indicates it is not a witch hunt.
That makes no sense whatsoever. Mueller found crimes completely unrelated to Trump.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:29 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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"The poll revealed that 59 percent of registered voters approve of Mueller’s investigation, marking an 11-point jump from respondents who said the same in a July Fox News poll." -- The Hill

https://twitter.com/foxnewspoll/stat...02035805700097


I guess Trump's constant whining about "witch hunts" isn't helping.
Fox news is now a genuine news source? I thought you guys just hated Fox and couldn't trust it....
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:31 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Not surprised. Trump's numbers are tanking at the same time.
Fail.
Holding steady, although down from their high a few weeks ago.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:32 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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That makes no sense whatsoever. Mueller found crimes completely unrelated to Trump.
Mueller isn't DONE. He's not even done with Manafort. Trial #2 will address crimes related to Russia. And the investigations continue. You have NO CLUE who is going to be charged next - and for what. Only Mueller and his team know what evidence they have gathered so far - and WHO it implicates.

Ken
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Mueller isn't DONE. He's not even done with Manafort. Trial #2 will address crimes related to Russia. And the investigations continue. You have NO CLUE who is going to be charged next - and for what. Only Mueller and his team know what evidence they have gathered so far - and WHO it implicates.

Ken
Yup. I think Mueller is batting, oh, 1000 right now?

Lol.

Suckers
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:35 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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If the holdout was a hardcore Trump supporter, that just shows even more how this is no witch hunt. Even that person couldn't ignore the overwhelming evidence Mueller had on at least the 8 guilty counts.
Manafort is guilty. More guilty than the verdict reflects. We Trump supporters have no problem sending guilty people to jail.


MAGA
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:37 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Manafort is guilty. More guilty than the verdict reflects. We Trump supporters have no problem sending guilty people to jail.


MAGA
And yet TRUMP seems to have a problem with Manafort going to jail - even though he IS guilty.


Ken
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:38 PM
 
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Aside from those who will never be swayed by any evidence not supporting their worldview, the steady stream of results, and now significantly higher-profile results, has had an impact in my opinion. While the pre-Tuesday plea deals were significant, they were significant more to political junkies than the average person. Those officials weren't common household names.



Manafort and Cohen are far higher-profile and adding their names to the list of convicted criminals resulting from these investigations has I think convinced a lot of on the fence people that there's some real substance here rather than just smoke. (yes, I know Cohen is not directly Mueller's doing).

And the fact that NY state and now the Manhatten DA appear to be going after Trump Corp and Cohen for various tax and perhaps fraud charges--
Surely resonably people of my age (70) remember having Spiro Agnew removed as VP because of his criminal activity not to mention Nixon's resignation because of Watergate???
They had to remember Clinton's close brush with impeachment for something that started prior to his presidency (WhiteWater) but ran aground because of lying under oath because of a SUBPOENA by Ken Starr-that Kavanaugh helped draw up and serve...

The hypocrisy is engulfing the GOP...I sorely miss John McCain and I am a Dem--but I think McCain had enough backbone to call a cur a cur...and hold his party accountable for their responsibility...

This is all about GOP members in Congress who likely have taken contributions that can be traced back to illegal Russian donations...
I would not be surprised if the investigation goes deep enough that the NRA took a LOT of foreign money from Russia maybe not knowing or maybe didn't really care and spread it among GOP candidates...the NRA gave Trump more money than any other GOP candidate in recent history...and that is a lot of money...
McConnell wasn't even running and he got a big donation...

Lyndsay Graham looked physically sick today when he threw Sessions under the big bus...
There is something dying in the GOP infecting all of them with this lack of moral clarity...
That is why we need term limits...as much as anything...
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