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It’s the result of people’s aversion to dirty work and the belief we can all have a clean and secure office job. In other words, a complete lack of understanding about how the economy functions properly
No I'm afraid it is you who don't understand how an economy functions properly. You see, people go to college to learn a skill like computer programming or health administration or nursing or accounting because they know that's where the jobs are, and most important, that's what they typically want to do. They are less into doing "dirty work" because there aren't as many "dirty work" jobs nowadays as there used to be. It's called demand and supply. Whatever the jobs in demand are, students are mostly supplying themselves.
No I'm afraid it is you who don't understand how an economy functions properly. You see, people go to college to learn a skill like computer programming or health administration or nursing or accounting because they know that's where the jobs are, and most important, that's what they typically want to do. They are less into doing "dirty work" because there aren't as many "dirty work" jobs nowadays as there used to be. It's called demand and supply. Whatever the jobs in demand are, students are mostly supplying themselves.
No squat. I went to school for business admin and commercial finance.
I work in, duh, commercial finance. I’ve been in the industry over 30 years.
Seems like some don’t really grasp the whole ‘Career Field’ thaing.
Education has always, until very recently, been a means of acquiring the basic knowledge and skills to be a contributing member of society. Higher education has been focused on providing that more advanced knowledge and skills for more complicated, advanced jobs in a technologically sophisticated society. In short-college in particular has always been about "workforce development". We don't expect surgeons to gain their qualifications by no more than reading a comic book. Nor do we expect the engineers designing the airplanes and cars we trust our lives to do so.
It is only in recent years that a university degree is looked as not as a place to gain useful productive, employable skills, but a place for entertainment, relaxation and 4 years of fun. Today's students seem to think that Animal House is the norm, not a movie. Well, I guess that's not really true-today's students have it a lot nicer than they did in the movie, in terms of dorm rooms, food and other services.
A) I know the definition and application of workforce training; and
B) I know what post secondary education is; and
C) my chosen career is directly related to B) noted above.
I find no relevance and/or value to any purported links you prescribed.
Look up workforce development programs in your state, then maybe you’ll be educated on the specific topic.
Education should teach a (young) person to think and want to gain more knowledge, but also to help guide that person towards being a functioning and productive adult human being.
College is too expensive to allow producing clueless liberal arts majors.
It is only in recent years that a university degree is looked as not as a place to gain useful productive, employable skills, but a place for entertainment, relaxation and 4 years of fun.
I don't think that's really true. Back prior to WWII, a university education was primarily a thing for upper class and upper-middle class people whose primary purpose was to use university as a sort-of "finishing school." That's not that different from your notion as university as 4 years of R&R.
Education has always, until very recently, been a means of acquiring the basic knowledge and skills to be a contributing member of society. Higher education has been focused on providing that more advanced knowledge and skills for more complicated, advanced jobs in a technologically sophisticated society. In short-college in particular has always been about "workforce development".
What you describe is training, not education.
Back when education was an elite thing, it was a much about keeping the torch of civilization lit as it was about rushing out to be a nice little cog in the machinery. They didn't teach Ancient Greek or for that matter Latin at Oxford because it made the students better in their careers. An Oxford degree increased their chances of having a career, sure - but as C. Northcote Parkinson pointed out, very few companies failed because they were managed by people who were really bad at Ancient Greek. The old-school universities would - still do - scoff at the idea of being an assembly line for useful contributors. Or, if they were going to admit to being in the supply line, they'd certainly argue that they weren't primarily imparting job-related knowledge and skills.
I'm old enough to remember when my country's universities wouldn't give you a Master's in anything without at least passing a Philosophy class. Why? Because with a degree, there was a fair chance that you'd be an influential member of society, and those should have at least some civilization taught them.
It is only in recent years that a university degree is looked as not as a place to gain useful productive, employable skills, but a place for entertainment, relaxation and 4 years of fun. Today's students seem to think that Animal House is the norm, not a movie. Well, I guess that's not really true-today's students have it a lot nicer than they did in the movie, in terms of dorm rooms, food and other services.
When I was going to college in the late 1970's, spring break was no big deal. I stayed at school, did some homework and just enjoyed a quiet week on my own. I was shocked that decades later, spring break was about going to Cancun or FL and drinking on the beach with other college students. I could never have asked my parents for travel and hotel money for a week of such hedonism... and it's not something that I would use my summer earnings on either.
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