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Yet he managed to beat the political establishments of both parties. He beat the Clintons and the Bushes and they have 5 presidential wins between them. He beat the MSM. And, most interestingly, he beat all of you who said here for close to 2 years that he would never be elected.
For someone who claims Trump knows very little about very little the evidence certainly says otherwise.
This says a lot more about the IQ of the people who voted for him than it does about Trump.
Your statement has nothing to do with why Trump won the presidency. Trump won because he sold himself as the complete polar opposite of the previous administration, and enough people were displeased with how the country was run during the last 8 years to elect a complete newcomer to politics their president.
I think the bolded is a large part of it. Additionally, I think that one, people underestimated the distaste for/dislike re Hillary (even among some who voted for her) and two, I think Van Jones was right re it partially being a 'Whitelash'....but I think that influence was much smaller than he and people who completely agree with him think.
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Of course, since his election, we have endured nothing but constant controversy, but this has done nothing to sway those who voted for him. And that would be because he has attempted to keep his promises, and he is presiding over a major "boom" period which is going on in America as we speak. Trump was not elected because his voters were "uninformed" as so many users on this site try to say. These people were informed plenty over the previous 8 year administration that things were not going the way they wanted them to, and they set out to change that in a big way. That's what got Donald Trump elected to office. And the sooner you folks actually figure that out, the sooner you can start trying to take back those voters. Because I can tell you one thing for sure. Constantly calling those who voted for Trump "uneducated" or "uninformed" will never bring any of those votes back to your side. And weather you believe it or not, you definitely need some of them.
PS. Also, about the OP, anyone think there's a chance Trump could have been joking around and having fun. I mean, you did notice who is doing the interview right?
I didn't vote for Trump, and I'm not a Republican, but I agree with the bolded. I've always SMH re that approach. Some people who voted for Hillary are too dumb to realize what you pointed out and I bolded, but I think a lot of other people are smart enough to realize that, but are still too 'butthurt' to care about the long game.
This says a lot more about the IQ of the people who voted for him than it does about Trump.
It might additionally show an underestimation of the desire for a greater likelihood of tax cuts coming to fruition, and might show an underestimation of the distaste/dislike for Hillary.
It might additionally show an underestimation of the desire for a greater likelihood of tax cuts coming to fruition, and might show an underestimation of the distaste/dislike for Hillary.
Doesn't it bother you that 83% of the tax cuts went to the wealthiest?
Your statement has nothing to do with why Trump won the presidency. Trump won because he sold himself as the complete polar opposite of the previous administration, and enough people were displeased with how the country was run during the last 8 years to elect a complete newcomer to politics their president. Of course, since his election, we have endured nothing but constant controversy, but this has done nothing to sway those who voted for him. And that would be because he has attempted to keep his promises, and he is presiding over a major "boom" period which is going on in America as we speak. Trump was not elected because his voters were "uninformed" as so many users on this site try to say. These people were informed plenty over the previous 8 year administration that things were not going the way they wanted them to, and they set out to change that in a big way. That's what got Donald Trump elected to office. And the sooner you folks actually figure that out, the sooner you can start trying to take back those voters. Because I can tell you one thing for sure. Constantly calling those who voted for Trump "uneducated" or "uninformed" will never bring any of those votes back to your side. And weather you believe it or not, you definitely need some of them.
PS. Also, about the OP, anyone think there's a chance Trump could have been joking around and having fun. I mean, you did notice who is doing the interview right?
I think you are wrong about some of your points.
Obama was a very popular president at the end of his term.
At the time of the election, he had a 57 approval to 41 disapproval rate. The economy had rebounded after he inherited a disaster and economy was steadily improving under his leadership. Sure, hard core republicans labeled his 8 years as a disaster but a majority of Americans did not. Trump won because he defeated a very polarizing candidate who had endured years of investigation under white water and unfruitful years of the Benghazi investigation (from a legal perspective but it was successful from a political one). She failed to energizer her base and wasted time trying to lure moderate republicans in red states (like Arizona) to the fold when she should have focused on Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. The October surpise from Comey also dinged her without giving her enough time to rebut. Despite that she still managed to win the popular vote by 3 million and electorial vote was lost by 80k in three states. This had nothing to do with Obama but everything to do with Hillary.
Calling the other side names or disparaging their voters has been going on for decades or, if you read old newspapers, centuries. I have yet to read a study that correlates that to victory or defeat.
Finally, the lesson that need to be learned is excite your base and appeal to moderates/independents/undecided. Trying to turn the other side is fruitless and waste of time and money.
I think the more time passes, Obama will become even more popular. He left at a fairly high mark. You are right about saying we picked someone who was the opposite, because Obama was humble, compassionate, intelligent, and showed moments of grace.
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Yet he managed to beat the political establishments of both parties. He beat the Clintons and the Bushes and they have 5 presidential wins between them. He beat the MSM. And, most interestingly, he beat all of you who said here for close to 2 years that he would never be elected.
For someone who claims Trump knows very little about very little the evidence certainly says otherwise.
So, a lot of people left their trailer parks for once and voted for Trump?
Wow, what a brilliant observation! You are obviously very well qualified to judge other people's levels of understanding.
It was Tony Schwartz, you know the man who really wrote the art of the deal, who said that Trump told him that he didn't read books. Though Trump did tell Schwartz that he had a book containing Hitler's speech's in a bedside cabinet.
Humans as in the Homo genus have been around a few million years. Beginning with Homo Habilis (3-2.5 million years) ago a stone tool user (flint). Homo Sapiens is between 300,000 and 250,000 years old.
So if they [H. Habilis] traded chances are they traded rocks among other things, flint being uncommon and useful in tool manufacture.
So if you consider the hundreds of millions as a figurative statement not literal. He's probably accurate.
Someone should compile a collection of video malaprops by this clown. I'm sure there's plenty of them and for those with a sense of gallows humor, they could be entertaining, as we watch him bring down our nation.
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