Will It be worth it? Impeaching Trump? (legal, conspiracy, Clinton)
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It's a little (but not too) early to be considering impeachment, even though it looks like this whole thing is headed that way. If Mueller's findings are as serious as conspiracy with Putin, then tRump clearly has to go and maybe Pence along with him. Probably a handful in congress, as well.
Conspiring with an adversary to effect the outcome of elections is about as big a threat to our democracy as this nation has faced since the Civil War.
They should be prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law.
In terms of current activities, no way should tRump be allowed to get another justice confirmed to the supreme court, in view of his questionable legitimacy and Kavanaugh's stance on executive privilege.
It's a little (but not too) early to be considering impeachment, even though it looks like this whole thing is headed that way. If Mueller's findings are as serious as conspiracy with Putin, then tRump clearly has to go and maybe Pence along with him. Probably a handful in congress, as well.
Conspiring with an adversary to effect the outcome of elections is about as big a threat to our democracy as this nation has faced since the Civil War.
They should be prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law.
In terms of current activities, no way should tRump be allowed to get another justice confirmed to the supreme court, in view of his questionable legitimacy and Kavanaugh's stance on executive privilege.
Although Trump looks like he's in some hot water, Pence isn't going anywhere, and he'll be the next president if the left succeeds in getting The Donald out. I'd still put the odds at less than 50/50 that this actually happens, but who knows, Trump could surprise everyone and resign if he's really getting sick of the entire thing.
Sounds like the right is panicking and trying anything they can think of to save their boy.
As for Pence.....his becoming POTUS should Trump be impeached and removed would depend on whether or not it's proven that the Russians' interference was what caused Trump to win. If that's proven, then Pence was no more legitimately elected to the Vice-Presidency than Trump was elected to the Presidency, and would probably likewise be removed. In which case, whomever is Speaker of the House at that point becomes POTUS.
There's also the question of how much of the current mess going on was Pence aware of, and if he was involved in it. If it's found he was aware/somehow involved, he's going to be in hot water himself, and possibly removed.
If it's determined the Russians' interference didn't change the outcome of the election, the Pence could become POTUS, and let the chips fall where they may from there.
If it's determined that Pence was ignorant/not involved of the crimes Trump is currently being accused of, then again, he could become POTUS.
There's a lot of factors still in play at the moment, and nothing at all is certain right now.
Yep. Any other questions without a bunch of drivel in them?
He committed MANY crimes, not just one and shows not one iota of caring. He sets a new standard which is no standard..so if he is let off, any future POTUS can say "whatabout".....
Although Trump looks like he's in some hot water, Pence isn't going anywhere, and he'll be the next president if the left succeeds in getting The Donald out. I'd still put the odds at less than 50/50 that this actually happens, but who knows, Trump could surprise everyone and resign if he's really getting sick of the entire thing.
Uh, that wouldn't be a surprise - it's the only way he can save certain members of him family and others.
The only surprise part of it is that it means he may actually be thinking of others...for a brief moment.
Although Trump looks like he's in some hot water, Pence isn't going anywhere, and he'll be the next president if the left succeeds in getting The Donald out. I'd still put the odds at less than 50/50 that this actually happens, but who knows, Trump could surprise everyone and resign if he's really getting sick of the entire thing.
Are you old enough to recall what happened to Nixon's veep?
If he is guilty of a crime, fine. If not, then stop and grow up move forward.
The lefties, socialists, communists, and Marxist are causing this division in our country. Its not Liberal thinkers, as there are many that are good people with good intent.
The right has their wicked people too.
But, in all honesty, at what cost are we willing as a Nation to live with to get rid of Trump? Really, the lefties hate trump with such a passion, they are digging up any and everything with all their power, money, etc etc.
What is their ultimate goal, and will it be worth it.
Impeaching Trump wouldn't get rid of him as President (see Clinton, and Andrew Johnson, who were both impeached). Trump would have to be found guilty in a trial in the Senate after being impeached in order to be removed from office. In Andrew Johnson's trial and in Bill Clinton's trial, no Senator of the President's party voted against the President. If that precedent held for Trump, Democrats would not only need to flip the House and the Senate, they would need to flip the Senate up to a 67 vote Democrat majority because it takes a 2/3 vote in the Senate to remove the POTUS from office.
What I see is the FBI Illegally got caught spying on the campaign opponent of clinton using a known false dossier, FISA ABUSE , **Confirmed Texts** Stozok,Page,Ohr saying they want to keep trump out of office... Domestic Terrorist At the FB LIE are attempting to Frame The President of the United States . And using the Media to Cover up they're crimes ..
The beauty in all this is the entire world sees what a bunch of criminals the fb lie is. UNMASKED,
The stormy Daniels fling happened before Obama was even president
Sounds like the right is panicking and trying anything they can think of to save their boy.
As for Pence.....his becoming POTUS should Trump be impeached and removed would depend on whether or not it's proven that the Russians' interference was what caused Trump to win. If that's proven, then Pence was no more legitimately elected to the Vice-Presidency than Trump was elected to the Presidency, and would probably likewise be removed. In which case, whomever is Speaker of the House at that point becomes POTUS.
There's also the question of how much of the current mess going on was Pence aware of, and if he was involved in it. If it's found he was aware/somehow involved, he's going to be in hot water himself, and possibly removed.
If it's determined the Russians' interference didn't change the outcome of the election, the Pence could become POTUS, and let the chips fall where they may from there.
If it's determined that Pence was ignorant/not involved of the crimes Trump is currently being accused of, then again, he could become POTUS.
There's a lot of factors still in play at the moment, and nothing at all is certain right now.
LOL!
You're not going to prove anything about Russian interference. And who's going to be the judge?
Again, and I'm tired of having to keep writing the same things on here.... If Hillary campaigns in about 5 swing states instead of spending her time in California and places that didn't matter - she probably wins. You democrats can look yourself right in the mirror for A) nominating a dirt bag like Hillary in the first place and B) allowing her to run such an awful campaign. Stop it with the Russians! You lost on your own.
Last edited by BeerGeek40; 08-25-2018 at 06:34 AM..
Are you old enough to recall what happened to Nixon's veep?
I'm aware of Spiro Agnew, but Pence isn't Agnew.
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