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The most effective method yet is a horrible recession or depression. We can always gin one of those up again.....
I think Net immigration is about zero for the past 10 years when all is figured in, right????
"The number of Mexican immigrants living in the U.S. illegally has declined by more than 1 million since 2007"
It's weird - I don't remember Republicans going nutso when, under GW Bush, this was a BIG problem. I must have forgotten...just like I forgot about how the GOP spent the last 8 years saying how they were going to cut the debt and deficit........can anyone say "hypocrites".....????
Based on that alone, you should shun "populist" solution, understand that there are LESS today than a decade ago and ask your representatives for a comprehensive plan that will last for decades.
Anything else is just populism. Sounds good, does nothing.
BTW, under Bush "a 700,000 net illegal immigrant increase/year assumption" = per year....so until the recession really hit you can thank GW and his henchmen for 4.5 Million or so.
Than thank Obama for reducing the numbers by a million or more.
Oh baloney, the so-called bi-partisan " comprehensive immigration reform" were all just amnesties and increases in foreign workers. Doing nothing is better than those so-called reforms. DACA and other amnesties are going to do nothing other than make millions nondeportable and not self-deport and encourage more to come.
There are a lot more latin Americans and illegals in this country than a decade ago. Everywhere I go that had none a few years ago has latin Americans sighted everywhere. They're turning entire towns demographics more Hispanic.
Where is your proof of this? If that's the case then they all need to go out of business. Do you actually think they are going to cut off their noses to spite their faces by closing their doors? No, there is still profit to be made even if it might be less by hiring Americans.
Here is a small example to start scratching the surface. But you are right, big business and rich people could pay higher wages and still have billions in profits. They just don't think like that.
Pay attention when he says "some form of legal tax avoidance". Of course that only apply to the rich.
And you have no evidence that a wall will have any effect on the number of people coming into our country illegally. How does a wall fix the problem of those overstaying their visa or those already here?
The wall is meant to deter more border jumpers, duh. It's not meant to fix the visa over stayer problem or those already here, duh. The last two problems will have to be dealt with in a different way, duh.
Here's the evidence that the good walls do work but I'm sure you'll just ignore them anyway.
Let's set the BS straight in here. Obama cooked the books on deportations. He counted those turned around at the border as deportations. Sure he deported some "convicted" criminals but he turned around and told DHS not to deport anyone who wasn't. He also gave millions of illegal aliens stays of deportation along with work permits by EO under DACA and DAPA. His deportation record was dismal.
If 1 million Mexican illegals left the country it's only a drop in the bucket and there's still more coming in higher percentages than a year ago. Net immigration either legal or illegal is not where's near zero. When Bush tried to pass an amnesty the phones rang off the hooks with objection to it. The deficit went way up under Obama but that isn't the topic of this discussion, duh.
Comprehensive plan, LOL! In other words another amnesty. No thanks!
"Comparing July 2018 to July 2017, the overall numbers are up nearly 57 percent with the largest increase being Family Units which increased more than 142 percent year over year.
For the Fiscal Year to Date FYTD 2018 compared to FYTD 2017 the numbers are up 16 percent for UAC, 29 percent for Family Units and overall the numbers are up almost 20 percent compared to this time last year".
I think illegals need to go simply because having millions of people here illegally can pose problems, but I don't think they cause as many problems as some people think.
Sorry to say, but the jobs illegals are doing aren't coming back. The reason the illegals are here in the first place is because there was and is a shortage of workers in certain fields. If Americans had filled those jobs in the first place, the illegals wouldn't come here because there wouldn't be any employment for them.
Americans don't want to pick oranges for $8/hr in a hot field in Florida, nor do they want to paint the exterior of houses in Texas in August for $8/hr. Give them $15/hr and full benefits and they'll consider it, but remember that the business will likely have to find ways to avoid a cut in profits. Of course, these increases will be passed on to consumers.
What a crock! We have a shortage of American construction and landscape workers? Since when? They were replaced by cheap, illegal aliens.
There are unlimited visas for legal, foreign crop pickers as it's true most Americans don't want seasonal work and it's not a career job for them. So why do we need illegals for those jobs? BS that Americans refuse to paint houses to. Why should they work for $8.00 an hour with no benefits? I don't give a crap what these greedy employers want they need to be punished for hiring illegal aliens. If you think they are passing any savings on to the consumer then you're not dealing in reality. What they do pass on to the taxpayer is their enormous social costs. Illegal aliens are no bargain for the rest of us. They cost us over $100 billion a year!
On the flip side if illegal aliens wouldn't jump our border offering to work for less the employers wouldn't be able to hire them either. They are both equally guilty of breaking the law and they both know it. There is no innocent party in this.
What a crock! We have a shortage of American construction and landscape workers? Since when? They were replaced by cheap, illegal aliens.
We do have a shortage of American workers in certain fields, not because there aren't enough people to fill the positions, but because there aren't enough people who are willing to do that work for the low amount employers are willing to pay.
Also, another part of it is that the need for skilled craftsmen is almost completely gone. There used to be good money to be made in crafts, but not anymore. People today would rather have something done cheaply and just buy junk from Home Depot rather than call a craftsman. My grandparents remember having their cabinets designed and built by cabinet craftsmen, but today people just buy pre-built ones from Home Depot and have them installed by cheap laborers.
We do have a shortage of American workers in certain fields, not because there aren't enough people to fill the positions, but because there aren't enough people who are willing to do that work for the low amount employers are willing to pay.
Also, another part of it is that the need for skilled craftsmen is almost completely gone. There used to be good money to be made in crafts, but not anymore. People today would rather have something done cheaply and just buy junk from Home Depot rather than call a craftsman. My grandparents remember having their cabinets designed and built by cabinet craftsmen, but today people just buy pre-built ones from Home Depot and have them installed by cheap laborers.
What jobs are you speaking of? This all goes back to if there weren't all of these illegal aliens in our country the employers would have to pay better wages and hire Americans and that's one of the reasons we object to the presence of illegal aliens here and want them deported.
Wrong, there is still a need for skilled craftsman in many fields of work. Home Deport sells many good products also. Home owners may buy pre-built cabinets (they still have to have people build them or have people operate the machinery to build them) but most don't want illegal aliens installing them.
Some of you aren't getting it. In a lot of cases Americans don't want the jobs is because they don't want to do the work they've previously done for half the pay.
Some of you aren't getting it. In a lot of cases Americans don't want the jobs is because they don't want to do the work they've previously done for half the pay.
Would you?
Exactly. Or even if they are willing can't get the work because it's now being done by illegals, or they'd rather not work with a crew of illegals yammering unpleasantly in a foreign language and what have you.
In a lot of cases legal and illegal workers are simply just pushing aside and replacing native workers. The natives often drop out of the workforce, become unemployed, move to a different location or try to enter a different work field.
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It's not meant to fix the visa over stayer problem or those already here, duh. 
