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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 63 13.55%
58-60 32 6.88%
55-57 61 13.12%
50-54 198 42.58%
49 or less 111 23.87%
Voters: 465. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-29-2018, 09:34 PM
 
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Old 09-29-2018, 09:34 PM
 
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Kennedy and Clinton did not continue to win office because Republicans were voting for them after their escapades.
My point is that you need to stop thinking that all Democrats can be lumped under the same umbrella. Democrats, first of all, cover a spectrum of political beliefs: most tend to be liberals, some leftists (BIG difference: Obama is a liberal, Sanders is a leftist), and some more independent in their thinking. Just as most "conservatives" cannot be lumped under the same umbrella: some are traditional conservatives, some are socially liberal but fiscally conservative, and others are far right (or right-wing). Knee-jerk narrative, whether "leftist" or "right wing" is mindless. And as citizens, we have a responsibility to detach from the distributed script of either side, and assess based on facts--not on ideology, emotion, or some misplaced allegiance to a tribe. All of us fail, of course, from time to time, but the point is that we need to keep this front-and-center--or we will forever be used and abused by unscrupulous leaders and their media spokespeople.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:34 PM
 
Location: California
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I would bet that voice, as well as the glasses and stringy hair down in her face were all part of her coaching. I would love to see if there are any videos of her teaching to see what her real voice is like. She put on a total show as opposed to the raw, real Kavanaugh.

If we allow the Democrats to defeat this nominee, they will know they can do whatever they want to anyone at any time. Not acceptable. Have to get him through and get our turnout up in November to keep the House.

Agree.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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I understand a lot of people will be asked questions. In fact those who are being questioned are talking about it to the media.

Kavanagh is lying about his past. You have to wonder what else he is lying about.
If you could prove that you would be guaranteed of a three way with Feinstein and Hirono. Maybe even Ginsburg would jump in.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:36 PM
 
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There will always be crackpots. Every serial killing has had crazies coming forward to confess.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Links?
I need to link the actions of Larry Craig and Mark Foley, seriously?
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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The problem comes to who you believe.
No, the problem is the Democrats are encouraging people to believe in the concept of assumption of guilt versus assumption of innocence. Let this sink in. Representatives of our government, people who have sworn to uphold our Constitution, are actively encouraging people to believe its okay to destroy a person’s life based on an accusation which has no corroborating evidence and in fact, no evidence at all. All in the name of politics. THAT is the problem.

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That isn't how our system works. If someone accuses you of harassment, without any proof, do you think they should be believed? There must be evidence, whether physical or witness accounts.

Do we really want to open this Pandora's Box?
Precisely!
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:41 PM
 
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Admittedly, I haven't read the 17000 posts in this thread but is Kavanaugh the only subject of investigation or will Ford be asked a question or two?
Huh?

How would an FBI or any investigation be done without speaking to and investigating the accuser?
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:41 PM
 
Location: az
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Why all of this trashing of a sexual assault victim? Good god. And the women who do it are inviting men to join in misogyny. Tragic.

Nobody is trashing the woman. But how did Ford get home if the other four she mentioned being at the gathering were still in the house?

She said the music in the room was turned up just before she was assaulted.

But why would there be music playing upstairs?

The gathering was downstairs.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Originally Posted by Cruzincat View Post
Kennedy and Clinton did not continue to win office because Republicans were voting for them after their escapades.
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Originally Posted by OrganicSmallHome View Post
My point is that you need to stop thinking that all Democrats can be lumped under the same umbrella. Democrats, first of all, cover a spectrum of political beliefs: most tend to be liberals, some leftists (BIG difference: Obama is a liberal, Sanders is a leftist), and some more independent in their thinking. Just as most "conservatives" cannot be lumped under the same umbrella: some are traditional conservatives, some are socially liberal but fiscally conservative, and others are far right (or right-wing). Knee-jerk narrative, whether "leftist" or "right wing" is mindless. And as citizens, we have a responsibility to detach from the distributed script of either side, and assess based on facts--not on ideology, emotion, or some misplaced allegiance to a tribe. All of us fail, of course, from time to time, but the point is that we need to keep this front-and-center--or we will forever be used and abused by unscrupulous leaders and their media spokespeople.
But a majority of them have to be considered under that umbrella if they keep re-electing them. They are all on the left, some farther than others, but they are on the left just the same.
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