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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 63 13.55%
58-60 32 6.88%
55-57 61 13.12%
50-54 198 42.58%
49 or less 111 23.87%
Voters: 465. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-18-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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The Libs here aren’t interested in truth



They aren’t interested in due process



These angry bitter people want Kavanaugh gone even if it means upending our entire justice system and the concepts of due process

 
Old 09-18-2018, 08:14 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I don’t know. Why are you so bent on proving Kavanaugh is not telling the truth.

Isn’t the burden on her? Isn’t our justice system predicated on innocent until proven guilty?
Evidently only if you are a Democrat/liberal. All others are GUILTY as accused...
 
Old 09-18-2018, 08:14 AM
 
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I don’t know. Why are you so bent on proving Kavanaugh is not telling the truth.

Isn’t the burden on her? Isn’t our justice system predicated on innocent until proven guilty?
Rule of law?

When did Republicans start caring about that?

In any case, this is the court of public opinion we're talking about. Not a court of law.

Or did you miss that part of the conversation?
 
Old 09-18-2018, 08:15 AM
 
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Rule of law?

When did Republicans start caring about that?

In any case, this is the court of public opinion we're talking about. Not a court of law.

Or did you miss that part of the conversation?
Yep. This is not the same world that refused to allow women to testify against Clarence Thomas. The world has evolved since then. Only the old men of the GOP seem not to realize it.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 08:15 AM
 
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Where is the evidence? Where are the witnesses?

Tell you what. Instead of sexual assault, let's say it was an allegation of any other crime. The alleged act took place 35 years ago. The alleged victim can't identify key details such as where the incident took place. The alleged victim told no one. The alleged victim didn't file a police report. If it weren't sexual assault, you'd likely say, "it's one person's word against another."

The problem here is that this is a last-minute accusation coming out of left field when the confirmation seemed to be a lock. Is this legitimate or a desperate Hail Mary pass? The timing to me is suspicious, and I don't even want Kavanaugh confirmed.

I didn't vote for Trump. I wouldn't do it with a gun to my head. But I have a serious problem with the complete lack of corroborating evidence in this situation.
There are seldom witnesses to sexual assaults. Of course. They aren't going to do it in public. That's why women don't report, they have no evidence. And based on many posts here, we are back at square one, some people will just never get it.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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I suspect he will withdraw his name before the testimony starts next Monday.

A reporter tried to track down those 65 women who swore Kavenaugh treated them respectfully in high school.

Only two still stand by him. Only two.

The rest have either declined to comment, or declined to return phone calls.
Or refused to speak to a reporter, or refused to speak to someone from THAT publication. So in YOUR mind that means they're not standing by what they said? It seems to me they said what they mean by signing on to begin with.
I wouldn't speak to some reporter either, what's to be gained other than harassment.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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There are seldom witnesses to sexual assaults. Of course. They aren't going to do it in public. That's why women don't report, they have no evidence. And based on many posts here, we are back at square one, some people will just never get it.



There are consequences to not reporting it


Now 36 years later there is absolutely nothing to work with


Please tell me what you suggest we do?
 
Old 09-18-2018, 08:18 AM
 
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At the end of the day it is a 35 year old "he said, she said". You're never going to get anything more from this other than both of them saying under oath that it did or did not happen which I assume they both stick to their guns. That being said, it will not appease the Dems other than political gains which was the whole point of the release, especially it's timing.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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There are seldom witnesses to sexual assaults. Of course. They aren't going to do it in public. That's why women don't report, they have no evidence. And based on many posts here, we are back at square one, some people will just never get it.
There are countries where you are guilty until proven innocent. North Korea, Sudan, and Syria, to name a few.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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Got to love the pearl clutching over false accusation.

Oh, the horror.

Imagine if someone falsely accused the President of being born in Kenya instead of the U.S.?

Or accused the President of wiretapping Trump?

Or accused a Senator of ordering assassinations or running a pedophile ring out of a pizza parlor?

Or accused the FBI/DOJ of being a deep state conspiracy cabal run by Democrats?

...

I mean this could get out of hand.

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