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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 63 13.55%
58-60 32 6.88%
55-57 61 13.12%
50-54 198 42.58%
49 or less 111 23.87%
Voters: 465. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-19-2018, 08:47 AM
exm
 
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I'm reading online that the call for the FBI is to indeed reopen the background check.....keeping this new information in mind when they do so. Apparently it is not unreasonable for the FBI to go back that far back to do a background check...

I really don't know about all that --but it is what folks are saying or have said.

AND I'm reading the FBI can and would do more investigating if the WH asked -- but the WH is not asking.

We are being told the WH is not asking because the FBI doesn't want to -- but that's just spinning it a wee bit.

REALITY-- This administration doesn't want to really find out the truth -- they just want to get this guy appointed -- Trump because it means a notch in his belt -- and for the Republicans it means they get a more conservative SCOTUS-- or so they think.

Where are you reading this, and who is calling for the FBI to re-open the background check? I can only guess...


What truth? He said/she said?

 
Old 09-19-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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Girls and women just have to be smarter about who they spend their alone time with.
Kavanaugh and his friend forcefully grabbed the woman from a hallway as she was exiting the bathroom; they forced her into the bedroom, closed the door and turned up the music. She was't alone with them until they forcefully abducted her from the hallway.

Do you propose separate elevators for women and men and then blame with woman for walking into the elevator with the man and give the man a pass if he rapes her in the elevator? Do you propose that a woman never enter an Uber or Cab if a man is driving?
 
Old 09-19-2018, 08:49 AM
exm
 
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Absolute BS, the President can order the FBI to investigate it just like Bush ordered them to investigate the Anita Hill matter.

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Donald Trump, as POTUS, has complete authority to ORDER the FBI to conduct a formal investigation at any time. Are you aware of that?

Is there precedent? Yes there is. In 1991, Bush ordered the FBI to investigate the sexual assault claims of Anita Hill against then SCOTUS nominee Thomas.

Have you got a response?

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Originally Posted by NeutralParty View Post
Donald Trump has the authority to, at any time, ORDER the FBI to conduct a full investigation of Dr Ford's claims.

The last time this happened when a SCOTUS nominee was accused of sexual assault in 1991, the then president George Bush DID order the FBI to conduct a formal investigation.


Any Trump/Kavanaugh supporters want to address that? I'm betting not.

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Originally Posted by jjrose View Post
Bush called on the FBI to investigate Anita Hills claims. They seemed to be able to it then, why not now?

To all the above, you can't compare this to Hill. Thomas was accused of sexually harassing Hill while both worked at federal agencies, in potential violation of federal law; Ford has accused Kavanaugh of sexual harassment that would fall well outside of any applicable federal or state statue of limitations because the alleged episode occurred decades ago.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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Kavanaugh and his friend forcefully grabbed the woman from a hallway as she was exiting the bathroom; they forced her into the bedroom, closed the door and turned up the music. She was't alone with them until they forcefully abducted her from the hallway.
Say what?

Did she prove this?

Did he confess to this?

WTF are you talking about?
 
Old 09-19-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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No; but a wild goose chase will suffice to delay the vote! That's the only agenda here.
I want the vote delayed until we are able to see the one hundred thousand pages of documents that the GOP is refusing to release regarding Kavanaugh during the Bush Administration. What are they hiding that they are so afraid we'll find out about? Whatever it is, they must be pretty worried it would disqualify him if it was to get out.

That is reason enough to want this lifetime appointment put on hold.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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It is not clear that she does know it.
Right. You know it, but she doesn't. Carry on.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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FBI does background checks.

This certainly fits that definition.

Why are Republicans so against investigating this serious matter?

There will be no "investigating" at the hearing. We all know that. The guy she says was in the room at the time insists he won't testify.

Republicans will try their best to smear her and shut her down.

Democrats wil try to drag it out as long as they can.

Investigate the incident so we have some idea if it is true or not.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 08:56 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Kavanaugh and his friend forcefully grabbed the woman from a hallway as she was exiting the bathroom; they forced her into the bedroom, closed the door and turned up the music. She was't alone with them until they forcefully abducted her from the hallway.

Do you propose separate elevators for women and men and then blame with woman for walking into the elevator with the man and give the man a pass if he rapes her in the elevator? Do you propose that a woman never enter an Uber or Cab if a man is driving?
What? What about her making the stupid choice to go party with four boys from another high school. Alcohol was involved. What was she thinking would happen?

And all woman should know self defense moves. Like kneeing a man in the balls.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 08:56 AM
 
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There is literally nothing to go on... The supposed victim won't give a date or location.
Perfect, that means the investigation would only take a few days then and be overwith quickly.

So you're completely on board with an FBI investigation that would totally exonerate Kavanaugh...right?
 
Old 09-19-2018, 08:57 AM
 
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What? What about her making the stupid choice to go party with four boys from another high school. Alcohol was involved. What was she thinking would happen?

And all woman should know self defense moves. Like kneeing a man in the balls.
It's always the woman's fault right?
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