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View Poll Results: Are both major parties equally dishonest and hypocritical?
Yes. 36 52.94%
No. It's mostly the Democrats. 13 19.12%
No. It's mostly the Republicans. 19 27.94%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-25-2018, 02:26 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Originally Posted by AguaDulce View Post
I believe that both major parties are equally dishonest and hypocritical.

Is there really too much division to acknowledge this?
Republican National Committee statements,

True- 4
Mostly true- 5
Half true- 11
Mostly false- 6
False- 6
Pants on fire- 2


Democratic National Committee's statements,

True- 7
Mostly true- 8
Half true- 12
Mostly false- 8
False- 2
Pants on fire- -0-

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ratic-parties/



Documented lies said by Donald Trump- 4,229
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.83517e07f833

Documented lies said by Barrack Obama- 1,375
https://www.amazon.com/examples-lawb.../dp/B01E4U36NE



Republican vs. Democrat news groups,

Fox News statements,

True- 10%
Mostly true- 11%
1/2 true- 18%
Mostly false- 21%
False - 31%
Pants on fire lie- 9%


MSNBC news statements,

True- 9%
Mostly true- 24%
1/2 true- 22%
Mostly false- 22%
False- 18%
Pants on fire lie- 4%


CNN news statements,

True- 15%
Mostly true- 42%
1/2 true- 23%
Mostly false- 6%
False- 11%
Pants on fire lie- 4%

https://www.politifact.com/punditfac...-meter-scorec/
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
Republican National Committee vs. Democratic National Committee.

Republican National Committee statements,

True- 4
Mostly true- 5
Half true- 11
Mostly false- 6
False- 6
Pants on fire- 2


Democratic National Committee's statements,

True- 7
Mostly true- 8
Half true- 12
Mostly false- 8
False- 2
Pants on fire- -0-

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ratic-parties/



Documented lies said by Donald Trump- 4,229
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.83517e07f833

Documented lies said by Barrack Obama- 1,375
https://www.amazon.com/examples-lawb.../dp/B01E4U36NE



Republican vs. Democrat news groups,

Fox News statements,

True- 10%
Mostly true- 11%
1/2 true- 18%
Mostly false- 21%
False - 31%
Pants on fire lie- 9%


MSNBC news statements,

True- 9%
Mostly true- 24%
1/2 true- 22%
Mostly false- 22%
False- 18%
Pants on fire lie- 4%


CNN news statements,

True- 15%
Mostly true- 42%
1/2 true- 23%
Mostly false- 6%
False- 11%
Pants on fire lie- 4%

https://www.politifact.com/punditfac...-meter-scorec/
The fact that someone can tell 1,300+ lies and be considered as a "great" POTUS by so many only because the next jerk told so many more tells you a lot about our political system and where we are headed regardless of who wins in 2020.
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by AguaDulce View Post
I believe that both major parties are equally dishonest and hypocritical.

Is there really too much division to acknowledge this?

Who's on board? I need some new friends.



No. The Republican party is worse, its a party of hypocrites.
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
Republican National Committee statements,

True- 4
Mostly true- 5
Half true- 11
Mostly false- 6
False- 6
Pants on fire- 2


Democratic National Committee's statements,

True- 7
Mostly true- 8
Half true- 12
Mostly false- 8
False- 2
Pants on fire- -0-

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ratic-parties/



Documented lies said by Donald Trump- 4,229
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.83517e07f833

Documented lies said by Barrack Obama- 1,375
https://www.amazon.com/examples-lawb.../dp/B01E4U36NE



Republican vs. Democrat news groups,

Fox News statements,

True- 10%
Mostly true- 11%
1/2 true- 18%
Mostly false- 21%
False - 31%
Pants on fire lie- 9%


MSNBC news statements,

True- 9%
Mostly true- 24%
1/2 true- 22%
Mostly false- 22%
False- 18%
Pants on fire lie- 4%


CNN news statements,

True- 15%
Mostly true- 42%
1/2 true- 23%
Mostly false- 6%
False- 11%
Pants on fire lie- 4%

https://www.politifact.com/punditfac...-meter-scorec/
Politifact is not exactly unbiased.
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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Yes!
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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We must vote harder!
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:45 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Both parties are horrendously corrupt. However, the Republicans want to make money off from me, which I can decide to allow or disallow. They seek wealth. And since I really don't covet or care about what others have or do not have, their wealth or lack thereof means squat to me.

The Democrats, on the other hand, wish to transform me and my nation into a herd of zombies that thinks, believes, speaks, and does exactly as they dictate with no variation or deviance from their "scriptures." Essentially, they are trying to forge a hell on earth. And I want no part of that hell.
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:45 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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The fact that someone can tell 1,300+ lies and be considered as a "great" POTUS by so many only because the next jerk told so many more tells you a lot about our political system and where we are headed regardless of who wins in 2020.
In America you need at least $950 million dollars in campaign funds to run a successful presidential campaign.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...paign-finance/

And our members of congress spend over 1/2 of their working hours calling people asking for campaign donations.
https://www.termlimits.com/congress-...sing-priority/

The average member of congress spends 30 hours per week soliciting campaign money.
https://bulletin.represent.us/congress-dialing-dollars/


We live in a country where only the super wealthy or those connected to the super wealthy can become president. And our members of congress spend more time soliciting political donations than on legislative work. We are ruled by the super wealthy and congressional puppets who's job it is to beg wealthy people for campaign money.

Both of our political parties suck.

Last edited by chad3; 08-25-2018 at 02:55 PM..
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:48 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
In America you need at least $950 million dollars to run a successful presidential campaign.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...paign-finance/
So... Hillary overspent and still lost. Why?
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Old 08-25-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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I'm new to politics.
I'll ask the President for expert opinion.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig3_puF_Gn4

Well I never expected THAT !!!!!!
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