I guess my mom would have got the death penalty. (abuse, laws)
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it is better for a parent to have trouble with the police than a dead child forever because the car was stolen with their child inside or the child was dead from heat stroke. "do-gooders" do the right thing to call the police when a child or animal is left alone in a hot car.
Man they carjack cars with kids in them. Can't live your life in perpetual fear.
This reminds me of a DL Hugley comedy routine where he talked about these (BEWARE overly offended people I'm quoting a not PC comedian lol) "dumb" kids today who die in hot cars and how his mom left him all the time in the car - mine did too BTW - and if he got hot he got out of the car lol. I remember getting left in the car at 4 and 5 with my brother, rolling down windows and getting out when it was hot.
My mom left us in the car a lot back in the 1980s when people didn't overly judge parents and expect them to never leave kids alone.
Note, I wouldn't leave my own 4 and 5 year old in the car (my kids are older than this). But if it was just to run in the store really quick, I don't see how this "do-gooder" did any good other than endanger these kids with foster care over a quick 5 minute trip. From what was described in the link, this was not some long trip or some sort of dangerous situation. People over-react IMO too much today.
I wonder how old most of you would think is okay to leave a kid in the car. I did leave my son when he was 10 in the car in the past and now that he's a teen, I leave him with his 9 year old sister in the car when they don't want to come in the store. I think that today too many people call the police over things that no one would have 25 years ago. Everyone trying to be an activist with a video camera on their phone...
Leaving the kids in the car while you go shopping for a long time is wrong but we've gone overboard with the criminalization of leaving kids in the car for a few minutes while you go grab some milk. Like with many issues nowadays there's a happy medium that we don't seem to be able to settle at.
This reminds me of a DL Hugley comedy routine where he talked about these (BEWARE overly offended people I'm quoting a not PC comedian lol) "dumb" kids today who die in hot cars and how his mom left him all the time in the car - mine did too BTW - and if he got hot he got out of the car lol. I remember getting left in the car at 4 and 5 with my brother, rolling down windows and getting out when it was hot.
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Now days kids 4 and 5 are still required to be strapped into car seats/booster seats/travel vests so they cant get out and cars dont have manual windows so they can roll them down.
A lady with a gun permit from PA took the wrong turn off and ended up over the border in NJ. A cop stopped her and she was going to jail under the NJ zero tolerance gun laws. She was legal in PA and a criminal in NJ. But might makes right and you can't fight city hall.
Now days kids 4 and 5 are still required to be strapped into car seats/booster seats/travel vests so they cant get out and cars dont have manual windows so they can roll them down.
I understand this - just sharing my experiences. My 9 year old is still in a booster.
But FWIW, I did teach my kids how to take off their 5 point harness and how to use a seat belt (on and off) by the time they were 4 years old - they knew how to do these things. Many parents don't teach their kids how to do this for some reason (holds up a lot of carpools).
My daughter was in a 5 point harness until she was 5 - she knew how to take it off, unlock the door and get out of the car.
When my son was 5 he had a high back booster (he's older and laws evolved since he was 5) and he knew how to buckle/unbuckle the seat belt and open the car door and get out of the car too at 5.
Parents really should teach their kids how to get out of the car and their carseat IMO at age 4. That was the main skill goal that I had for my kids at age 4 (I had skill goals based on my mom being a daycare owner and later a Head Start teacher and her always complaining and still complaining about the basic stuff that kids don't know how to do. People drill their kids with flashcards but don't teach them how to button/unbutton their pants or how to take off their seatbelts - they use seatbelts on the buses my mom goes on field trips on with her kids and hardly any of them know how to take the seat belt off and when they come they often dont know how to button/unbutton-zipper/unzip their clothes so I focused a lot on these "soft skills" with my kids when they were young).
So to be funny like the comedian, they are "dumb" only because the parents don't teach them these things IMO.
I understand this - just sharing my experiences. My 9 year old is still in a booster.
But FWIW, I did teach my kids how to take off their 5 point harness and how to use a seat belt (on and off) by the time they were 4 years old - they knew how to do these things. Many parents don't teach their kids how to do this for some reason (holds up a lot of carpools).
My daughter was in a 5 point harness until she was 5 - she knew how to take it off, unlock the door and get out of the car.
When my son was 5 he had a high back booster (he's older and laws evolved since he was 5) and he knew how to buckle/unbuckle the seat belt and open the car door and get out of the car too at 5.
Parents really should teach their kids how to get out of the car and their carseat IMO at age 4. That was the main skill goal that I had for my kids at age 4 (I had skill goals based on my mom being a daycare owner and later a Head Start teacher and her always complaining and still complaining about the basic stuff that kids don't know how to do. People drill their kids with flashcards but don't teach them how to button/unbutton their pants or how to take off their seatbelts - they use seatbelts on the buses my mom goes on field trips on with her kids and hardly any of them know how to take the seat belt off and when they come they often dont know how to button/unbutton-zipper/unzip their clothes so I focused a lot on these "soft skills" with my kids when they were young).
So to be funny like the comedian, they are "dumb" only because the parents don't teach them these things IMO.
Oh yeah I know just saying how even the idea of seat belts and car seats and cars have changed.
There were no car seat or seat belt laws when I was a kid or even when my first was born and the seats were no where near as complicated as they are today. I have a difficult time putting kids in and out of some of these restraints so I guess I'm the dumb grandparent.
Moms child restraint was swinging that right arm across and pinning you against the seat if she had to hit her breaks hard.. Dad stomped the breaks on purpose causing us kids to fly forward. We knew we were in trouble then. We would look at him looking at us through the rear view saying "I TOLD YOU TO SIT DOWN AND BE STILL".
I remember laying in the back window of our woody wood wagon on long trips, it was my favorite spot, and riding in the bed of the truck. All these things would probably get you in trouble today.
Oh yeah I know just saying how even the idea of seat belts and car seats and cars have changed.
There were no car seat or seat belt laws when I was a kid or even when my first was born and the seats were no where near as complicated as they are today. I have a difficult time putting kids in and out of some of these restraints so I guess I'm the dumb grandparent.
Moms child restraint was swinging that right arm across and pinning you against the seat if she had to hit her breaks hard.. Dad stomped the breaks on purpose causing us kids to fly forward. We knew we were in trouble then. We would look at him looking at us through the rear view saying "I TOLD YOU TO SIT DOWN AND BE STILL".
I remember laying in the back window of our woody wood wagon on long trips, it was my favorite spot, and riding in the bed of the truck. All these things would probably get you in trouble today.
I guess they would.
Back then you could also beat the snot out of your kids and no one interfered. It was your own business what you did with your kids.
One of our neighbors knocked his daughter's front teeth out because she wouldn't have sex with him any more.
Everyone knew what happened, but no one did a darn thing about it.
Now we have a lot of whining, hand wringing, and free-range parenting laws being passed to ensure that parents can be a neglectful as they want and not face any consequences.
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. Dad stomped the breaks on purpose causing us kids to fly forward. We knew we were in trouble then. We would look at him looking at us through the rear view saying "I TOLD YOU TO SIT DOWN AND BE STILL".
