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Old 04-02-2008, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Are not our most basic laws derived form The old testament of the Christian Bible????
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:06 PM
 
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Are not our most basic laws derived form The old testament of the Christian Bible????
so...?

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Old 04-02-2008, 04:56 PM
Status: "Bu Dop 1967" (set 3 days ago)
 
Location: On a hill near a river
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"Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”

-- George Washington

"The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained”

-- George Washington

"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

-- George Washington
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:36 PM
 
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As far as religion in public schools and local gov't, it should be decided by that school district or local gov't. If a small town in Mississippi wants to include prayer at the opening at each school day, then it should have the right if agreed upon by voters, administration, and the school board. If a district wishes to keep to a strictly non religious approach then that should also be allowed.
This is simply to say that one either has or does not have Constitutional rights at the whim of any local majority. Our system of government goes to some lengths to place and keep individual rights beyond the reach of such local majorities. You want to undo all that. This is clearly improper under this form of government...
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:38 PM
 
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Are not our most basic laws derived form The old testament of the Christian Bible????
That's an easy one. No.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:41 PM
 
Location: southern california
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well if the politicians are acting godless, that is without morals or ethics. that is not good. but if they are acting in a moral and ethical manner whether they attend church is a minor issue. their affiliation with religion is good in the hopes that some of the basic teaching in most religions (other than satanic) is to serve our fellow man in an ethical manner.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:51 PM
 
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This is simply to say that one either has or does not have Constitutional rights at the whim of any local majority. Our system of government goes to some lengths to place and keep individual rights beyond the reach of such local majorities. You want to undo all that. This is clearly improper under this form of government...
Not exactly... when the Constitution was written, a great amount of faith and control was placed in the hands of local government. Including religion...
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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the proper relationship is no relationship
AGREED 100%!
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:24 PM
 
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Not exactly... when the Constitution was written, a great amount of faith and control was placed in the hands of local government. Including religion...
That system of government is long gone, courtesy of the 14th Amendment. If we were only a slightly more realistic nation, we would speak of the Second Republic as dating from July 28, 1868.

And the point would not in any case address in any way the matter of making supposedly sacrosanct Constitutional rights subject to something so mundanely pedestrian as the will of some 50%-plus-one local majority...
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:27 PM
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"Endowed by their Creator..."

You know, like Ed Rendell.
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