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Old 09-07-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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Remember... Obama signed Propaganda into law. There are numerous Obama hold-overs withing the highest levels of government.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...aganda-act-law

Also called the Countering Information Warfare Act of 2016 (S. 2692), when introduced in March represents a dramatic return to Cold War-era government propaganda battles.

You are seeing the fruits of it right here in real time.
The current admin needs to use this to shutdown CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, etc. who are ALL spreading fake news agitprop.
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:53 AM
 
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Remember... Obama signed Propaganda into law. There are numerous Obama hold-overs within the highest levels of government.
So what you are saying is that each and every other president since George Washington had full control of his own administration, and yet Trump and his own white house team somehow can't get their act together? That's how MAGA works?

Furthermore you contend, without any real facts to back it up, that somehow the Obama administration, which hasn't existed now for almost two years, planted this story as propaganda in the New York Times?

Are you claiming that officials in the Trump administration are using a 'propaganda law' to hurt the administration, and no one in the administration is using the law to help the administration, and Trump can't get a handle on it ?

Trump doesn't even have the ability to find these people whose authority to function specifically comes from some law like that? Bolton can't find the department that would do this, Pompeo doesn't know who they could be, Mattis is unaware, Sessions hasn't a clue?

Are you serious?
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:56 AM
 
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The current admin needs to use this to shutdown CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, etc. who are ALL spreading fake news agitprop.
Do you understand the US Constitution? What it says and how it works?
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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Do you understand the US Constitution? What it says and how it works?
Yes, it doesn't mention CNN, MSNBC or WaPo so it's meaningless. This law ALLOWS the US govt to shutdown what THEY deem propaganda and fake news. Shut em down.
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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Yes, it doesn't mention CNN, MSNBC or WaPo so it's meaningless. This law ALLOWS the US govt to shutdown what THEY deem propaganda and fake news. Shut em down.
Please show link to the law you are citing.

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Old 09-07-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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Please show link to the law you are citing.
Read the link BentBow posted, it's in there.


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And so, with the likes of WaPo having already primed the general public to equate "Russian Propaganda" with "fake news" (despite admitting after the fact their own report was essentially "fake"), while the US media has indoctrinated the public to assume that any information which is not in compliance with the official government narrative, or dares to criticize the establishment, is also "fake news" and thus falls under the "Russian propaganda" umbrella, the scene is now set for the US government to legally crack down on every media outlet that the government deems to be "foreign propaganda."
Just like that, the US Ministry of Truth is officially born.

All that needs to be done is make the case that the fake news coming from the many Left leaning outlets is Russian Propaganda and boom, shut down.
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:30 AM
 
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Yes, it doesn't mention CNN, MSNBC or WaPo so it's meaningless. This law ALLOWS the US govt to shutdown what THEY deem propaganda and fake news. Shut em down.
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Please show link to the law you are citing.
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Read the link BentBow posted, it's in there.
I don't see it. Please link to the statute or constitutional clause to which you refer above, allowing the US government to shut down these news organizations.
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:37 AM
 
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I don't see it. Please link to the statute or constitutional clause to which you refer above, allowing the US government to shut down these news organizations.
I was actually being sarcastic but it's always in the "interpretation" of the law isn't it? But there IS a law that allows the government to legally go after fake news. It's in the article, I guess you didn't read it.


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Here is the full statement issued by the generously funded Senator Rob Portman (R- Ohio) on the singing into law of a bill that further chips away at press liberties in the US, and which sets the stage for future which hunts and website shutdowns, purely as a result of an accusation that any one media outlet or site is considered as a source of "disinformation and propaganda" and is shut down by the government.
President Signs Portman-Murphy Counter-Propaganda Bill into Law
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Old 09-07-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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I was actually being sarcastic but it's always in the "interpretation" of the law isn't it? But there IS a law that allows the government to legally go after fake news. It's in the article, I guess you didn't read it.
I've read the full statement and I can find nothing in it that indicates they can shut down U.S. news agencies/companies. In fact, what it does is:

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The bipartisan Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act is organized around two main priorities to help achieve the goal of combatting the constantly evolving threat of foreign disinformation from our enemies:

The first priority is developing a whole-of-government strategy for countering THE foreign propaganda and disinformation being wages against us and our allies by our enemies. The bill would increase the authority, resources, and mandate of the Global Engagement Center to include state actors like Russia and China as well as non-state actors. The Center will be led by the State Department, but with the active senior level participation of the Department of Defense, USAID, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, the Intelligence Community, and other relevant agencies. The Center will develop, integrate, and synchronize whole-of-government initiatives to expose and counter foreign disinformation operations by our enemies and proactively advance fact-based narratives that support U.S. allies and interests.

Second, the legislation seeks to leverage expertise from outside government to create more adaptive and responsive U.S. strategy options. The legislation establishes a fund to help train local journalists and provide grants and contracts to NGOs, civil society organizations, think tanks, private sector companies, media organizations, and other experts outside the U.S. government with experience in identifying and analyzing the latest trends in foreign government disinformation techniques. This fund will complement and support the Center’s role by integrating capabilities and expertise available outside the U.S. government into the strategy-making process. It will also empower a decentralized network of private sector experts and integrate their expertise into the strategy-making process.
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Old 09-07-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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If Obama had been able to shut down Fox News, don't you think he'd have done so?
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