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Old 09-07-2018, 02:16 PM
 
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Hey look, another disingenuous attempt to refute the truth. Obama did sanction Russia, no amount of denial on your part is going to change history.

Sure he did, he also told his staff to stop messing with the Russians during the election and then after the election he got mad and then kicked Russians out...after the fact....

 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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you can't read?......I just refuted yours points, you just don't want to read....too many words.




Obama for 8 years was weak on Putin and the line in the sand against Sirya who were backed by the Russians sure made Obama look weak.


at least Trump is arming Ukraine in their fight against Russia, something Obama refused to do.



Obama weak on Putin?




Ahahaha. What rosy colored spectacles you have for the great orange one.


Perhaps you forgot about the Trump Putin summit where when asked if he 'held Russia at all accountable' Trump said the United States had been foolish in front of Putins face and the world!

Weak on Putin? Give me a break. Trump is in Putins puppet.
The sanctions on Russia have nothing to do with Trump. As we all know Trump is not running the country - his aides are.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:17 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Sure he did, he also told his staff to stop messing with the Russians during the election and then after the election he got mad and then kicked Russians out...after the fact....
So you were just feigning ignorance when you were denying that he took any actions, at all?
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:18 PM
 
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He only mentioned Trump once. He's campaigning for a sane America. That's a lot for Trump voters to deal with. Their vested in a lunatic. Besides--Obama's approval is 65% and Trump's is 35%. It will be good for people to be reminded of what a mature adult sounds like while Bannon and Trump are out there fear-mongering and creating fantasies.




Did Obama’s approval rating help his party?


Nope
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Florida
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That's true. Trump is the Grievance President. He campaigned on grievances, he lists a ton of grievances every time he speaks, and his following have many many grievances, though I'm not sure as many as the Trump lovers on the forum.

And since Trump is greatly enriching himself with his office, I think it is safe to say that Obama speaks the truth.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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Are you being thick or do you really believe everything you type?

Because you’re desperately trying to create a false equivalency that “sanctions” are equal to “no sanctions”.

Just because he didn’t take further action doesn’t mean he didn’t take any at all.


Why did he not do it when he first found out? Did I ever say he did not, of course not? Stop reading between the lines. He did everything after, not during...sorry you cannot see the difference. When you know something bad is happening, you don't wait till after to show you're mad....
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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Yeah, there's a lot of resentment. It's hard to ignore, try as Democrats may.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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So you were just feigning ignorance when you were denying that he took any actions, at all?

Show me where I said they never imposed sanctions....I'll wait....give me the post number...
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:21 PM
 
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https://townhall.com/


also says Trump is running on fear! LMAO. Like how Dems are saying women will die if Kavanaugh is confirmed?


Is Obama campaigning for the Dems a good thing really? Under Obama Democrats lost over a 1000 seats and his constant campaigning for Hillary didn't allow her to win.
Time will tell.

The swing voter doesn't go to the Trump Rallies or the Obama rallies....so don't they both just play to the base.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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Obama said, “The powerful and the privileged, who want to keep us divided, keep is angry and keep us cynical, because it helps them maintain the status quo and keep their power and keep their privilege. And you happen to be coming of age during one of those moments. It did not start with Donald Trump. He is a symptom, not the cause. He’s just capitalizing on resentments that politicians have been fanning for years. Rooted in our past, but also born out of the enormous upheavals that have taken place in your brief lifetimes.”

Wow Obama had some real neve. Nobody defines privileged and status quo more than Obama’s



And what politicians is he talking about? Maybe himself?
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