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What makes you think that people who dislike the sophomoric antics of SJW's are pro-Trump?
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Originally Posted by MPowering1
Um, are you 12? My *profile* is empty. And I'm a Democrat.
crazy.
after seeing hundreds of posts of yours, not a single one being even remotely supportive of trump from what i recall, i see crazed leftists consider you a fox-news-watching 'trumplet' and a 'trumpwad' because they are melting down over your quite moderate posts about a tennis player.
after seeing hundreds of posts of yours, not a single one being even remotely supportive of trump from what i recall, i see crazed leftists consider you a fox-news-watching 'trumplet' and a 'trumpwad' because they are melting down over your quite moderate posts about a tennis player.
seems odd
They are eating tbeir own and accusing us of same! HaHa
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Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian
To which I reply with more of your own words...
Osaka can call up Kim Clijsters and Samantha Stosur and they can all chat about being the answer to a future Trivial Pursuit question - "name the three women who beat Serena Williams soundly in the US Open final, and were totally overshadowed by Serena melting down and complaining about being robbed?"
So ridiculous. I will say this, I hope Osaka soundly beats Serena every single time they play from here on out. Eventually, even the apologists will have to recognize what's up.
This.
I will root for them and against Serena too.
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Originally Posted by don1945
You are missing the big point here. I am an older white guy, and she was robbed. How many antics have we seen from male tennis stars over the years, throwing tantrums, threatening judges, calling them an SOB, etc, etc. They were always given a pass.
That line judge made it personal. He couldn't stand a women speaking up and questioning him. Pro Tennis is an intense sport, Serena is one of the best. Maybe she was beaten, but the heat they put on her certainly did not help, and was purely sexist.
Any man, who has any honesty, will admit we ARE treated differently and better than women. If we are pushy, we are assertive, if a woman does the very same thing, she is bitc*y. I have seen it all my business career, and in daily life. Some people still want women to be barefoot and pregnant, and keep their damn mouth shut.
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Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian
No, they weren't. That's a popular myth, but it isn't true. McEnroe defaulted entire matches over his behavior. So did plenty of others. hell, in a Davis Cup final, UK defaulted a championship to Canada because one of their guys got mad, whacked a ball out of frustration and that ball bapped the umpire in the face, totally unintentional and coincidence...but their team was immediately defaulted. Men and women both get warnings and infractions. Serena is not being singled out, she's just claiming she is.
Not even remotely true. Nadal says Ramos is out to get him too, because Nadal likes to take long breaks during matches, outside the rules. He thinks Ramos should be sympathetic and look the other wa, and Ramos is a gold badge umpire for a reason, and says nope, play by the rules. Serena and her coach broke the rules and the penalties were perfectly fair in all three cases. Her coach admitted to coaching from the stands, she clearly broke her racket and she clearly called the umpire a cheater. Every single one is a proper rules violation, and all three are beyond dispute at this point. What is also beyond dispute is she was losing to Osaka at the time, same as 2011 and 2009 when she was losing to Stosur and Klijsters respectively.
Maybe, but that is not what happened here. You are inventing a false assertion - that men are not penalized for violating rules in tennis. They are penalized, and there's ample proof that this is so. Since your initial premise is demonstrably false, your conclusion is clearly invalid.
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Originally Posted by -Chatterboxx-
Sexism and racism aside, I observed her reaction and it was very emotional and perhaps crossed the line. I don't watch professional tennis, so I don't know if her reaction is 'normal', but it was clear to me that she was very outraged at the line judge and proceeded to berate him.
As someone who has participated in a number of sports, I realize that it can be an emotional experience for those involved. So while an apology could help redeem her poor and petty behavior, I also hold nothing against her for having the response she had during a highly emotional event. She should probably just apologize and move on.
Nope.
That ship sailed and sunk on Gilligan's Island because of her Sexiest Claim™.
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Originally Posted by MPowering1
LOL! Thanks, for the laugh and the correct portrayal of my posting record. I just consider the source with some of these posters.
Between that and being accused of being a liberal by a few people on the far right, I'm starting to think moderates are confusing to extremists who don't seem to understand middle ground on any front.
Srsly?
You know better than that.
There is no middle ground anymore.
You will be shoved to the right or left. Did you not see the Kavanaugh hearings?
Sad that this young woman can't win in grace. She has to go through life knowing that she won a match that upset entitled Americans. Now, Serena is making this finals about her.
You are missing the big point here. I am an older white guy, and she was robbed. How many antics have we seen from male tennis stars over the years, throwing tantrums, threatening judges, calling them an SOB, etc, etc. They were always given a pass.
That line judge made it personal. He couldn't stand a women speaking up and questioning him. Pro Tennis is an intense sport, Serena is one of the best. Maybe she was beaten, but the heat they put on her certainly did not help, and was purely sexist.
Any man, who has any honesty, will admit we ARE treated differently and better than women. If we are pushy, we are assertive, if a woman does the very same thing, she is bitc*y. I have seen it all my business career, and in daily life. Some people still want women to be barefoot and pregnant, and keep their damn mouth shut.
You are missing the big point here. I am an older white guy, and she was robbed. How many antics have we seen from male tennis stars over the years, throwing tantrums, threatening judges, calling them an SOB, etc, etc. They were always given a pass.
No, they weren't. That's a popular myth, but it isn't true. McEnroe defaulted entire matches over his behavior. So did plenty of others. hell, in a Davis Cup final, UK defaulted a championship to Canada because one of their guys got mad, whacked a ball out of frustration and that ball bapped the umpire in the face, totally unintentional and coincidence...but their team was immediately defaulted. Men and women both get warnings and infractions. Serena is not being singled out, she's just claiming she is.
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Originally Posted by don1945
That line judge made it personal. He couldn't stand a women speaking up and questioning him. Pro Tennis is an intense sport, Serena is one of the best. Maybe she was beaten, but the heat they put on her certainly did not help, and was purely sexist.
Not even remotely true. Nadal says Ramos is out to get him too, because Nadal likes to take long breaks during matches, outside the rules. He thinks Ramos should be sympathetic and look the other wa, and Ramos is a gold badge umpire for a reason, and says nope, play by the rules. Serena and her coach broke the rules and the penalties were perfectly fair in all three cases. Her coach admitted to coaching from the stands, she clearly broke her racket and she clearly called the umpire a cheater. Every single one is a proper rules violation, and all three are beyond dispute at this point. What is also beyond dispute is she was losing to Osaka at the time, same as 2011 and 2009 when she was losing to Stosur and Klijsters respectively.
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Originally Posted by don1945
Any man, who has any honesty, will admit we ARE treated differently and better than women. If we are pushy, we are assertive, if a woman does the very same thing, she is bitc*y. I have seen it all my business career, and in daily life. Some people still want women to be barefoot and pregnant, and keep their damn mouth shut.
Maybe, but that is not what happened here. You are inventing a false assertion - that men are not penalized for violating rules in tennis. They are penalized, and there's ample proof that this is so. Since your initial premise is demonstrably false, your conclusion is clearly invalid.
after seeing hundreds of posts of yours, not a single one being even remotely supportive of trump from what i recall, i see crazed leftists consider you a fox-news-watching 'trumplet' and a 'trumpwad' because they are melting down over your quite moderate posts about a tennis player.
seems odd
LOL! Thanks, for the laugh and the correct portrayal of my posting record. I just consider the source with some of these posters.
Between that and being accused of being a liberal by a few people on the far right, I'm starting to think moderates are confusing to extremists who don't seem to understand middle ground on any front.
....and you clearly hear, at time 0:30, the umpire issue a verbal abuse penalty of a point to McEnroe. Then at time 1:10, when he smashes stuff by his chair, you hear another code violation and he is penalized a game. Then he calmly walks over and asks if the match is over, the official says no, you were penalized game and the set is at 4-4, McEnroe asks calmly if the umpire can be replaced, is told no, and he walks away...knowing his next bit of nonsense defaults the match.
They mistimed the smacking of the tennis ball in that video, as that came earlier in the match and was his first violation that got him a warning.
And oh by the way, his fine from that match resulted in him being suspended from the tour for 21 days, because of a rule that was implemented based on his antics specifically.
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