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Old 09-09-2018, 09:02 PM
 
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It is an interesting facet of the last 25 years.

At one time, there were sympathy strikes.

Today unionized workers regularly shop at places that sell products competing with the livelihood of other unionized workers.

And they are clueless what a sympathy strike is, and how it, not the initial strike, was the big weapon.
Shopping habits has nothing to do with why labor unions in America have been destroyed while labor unions wield tremendous power in other developed countries. Thats public policy. When people get brain washed into thinking that the government is useless so lets hand it over to Wall Street, Wall Street will do what is in their interest. And that is to crush the working class and their unions.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:03 PM
 
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I'm not anti-union in principle. The unions are almost worthless anymore. UAW new workers make less in most cases than the non-union auto workers now. Then the other unions are basically for open borders. Consumers are a lot of the blame for destroying the unions and American workers. They're almost as much to blame as the politicians. Sometimes workers won't even unionize when given the chance. The average person is just short sided and looking out for only themselves and are no different than the politicians.

Transplants offered excellent ages, low COL regions, very good benefits, stable employment, plus Profit Sharing-often ultra generous.

The UAW could not top that.

The reason Transplants did this is they are very profitable, and just need to keep pumping out cars as fast as they are sold.

Brilliant management strategy.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:05 PM
 
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Shopping habits has nothing to do with why labor unions in America have been destroyed while labor unions wield tremendous power in other developed countries.
Baloney!

Germans do not buy Asian made products. They willingly pay more, in Germany, for German made products.

Would you pay MORE for an American product, of simply equal quality, where what excess you are paying is solely due to higher production labor wages?
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:05 PM
 
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I'm not anti-union in principle. The unions are almost worthless anymore. UAW new workers make less in most cases than the non-union auto workers now. Then the other unions are basically for open borders. Consumers are a lot of the blame for destroying the unions and American workers. They're almost as much to blame as the politicians. Sometimes workers won't even unionize when given the chance. The average person is just short sided and looking out for only themselves and are no different than the politicians.
UAW is a tiny section of the American work force. In a civilized society, service workers constitute the vast majority of workers. And they of course need to be unionized. If not, Wall Street will set the terms. And Wall Street will pack the courts and Congress with their men and women, not the workers and voters.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:07 PM
 
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In a civilized society, service workers constitute the vast majority of workers. And they of course need to be unionized. .
Robots will do those jobs in the next few years, btw.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:08 PM
 
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Baloney!

Germans do not buy Asian made products.
Thats funny. Germans of course import lots of stuff from Asia, same as any other developed country. It has nothing to do with Germans deliberately trying to support unions through purchases.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:09 PM
 
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Robots will do those jobs in the next few years, btw.
Service workers include lawyers, doctors, professors, office workers of all kinds and any other service. Its a myth that the service section of the workforce is a "McJob".
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:13 PM
 
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Thats funny. Germans of course import lots of stuff from Asia, same as any other developed country. It has nothing to do with Germans deliberately trying to support unions through purchases.
Their retail largely does not support Asian products. They favor home made products, and they pay more willingly.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:16 PM
 
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Service workers include lawyers, doctors, professors, office workers of all kinds and any other service. Its a myth that the service section of the workforce is a "McJob".
The masses are in retail restaurants, low end stuff. USA has 3 million cashiers-#1 profession.

As for the rest, large % of paralegal jobs are robots now, btw. Much of clerical accounting, too, is starting to automate. If it is a rote task, a robot will get the job soon.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:16 PM
 
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Their retail largely does not support Asian products. They favor home made products, and they pay more willingly.
The largest importer to Germany in 2016 was...China, importing more as a share of the economy from China than America did from China.
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