Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I cannot believe I just clicked on Infowars. He really likes to sew fear and discontent.
Those reactors are fine.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathguy
Alex Jones has repeatedly spewed conspiracy about nuclear reactors for years because it helps his sponsors sell prepper stuff and Geiger counters.
He lied about Fukushima fallout reaching the west coast. He lied about a meltdown at a nuke plant near Omaha due to flooding and other stuff as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mircea
InfoWars gets it wrong again, as usual.
US nuclear power plants are not designed with subterranean levels.
The US did study the conceptual designs of underground nuclear power plants in the 1970s, but decided against it for a number of reasons, including the increased costs to operate and maintain such a facility.
US nuclear power plants are located near lakes and rivers, because they require a water supply, but they are all surrounded by 12' earth berms to protect against flooding, and also to enhance security and safety.
The Fukushima power plant was a poor design, located in an area that had a recorded history of tsunamis, as well as an oral history of tsunamis dating back several centuries.
Placing critical reactor components in subterranean levels in an area that has both a history of flooding and flood-related tsunamis is an unforgivable error on the part of Japanese designers.
Fox & Friends had a report on it this morning.
Maybe Reuters would be better for those so Triggered by the sight of anything Alex Jones....
Tomorrows news today - INFOwars
Of the 12, 2 are worrisome and the same layout and design as Fukushima
I spent 10 years in the nuclear powered US Navy, and since then have numerous friends ad ex-colleagues working in he US nuclear power generation industry, and the US safety record with nuclear power is beyond remarkable. Actually, it's mind bogglingly extraordinary.
We are not Japan. We are not Russia. We EXCEL at safely generating power with nuclear reactors. Period, the end.
Yup.
Every commercial nuclear reactor in the US is encased in 2 heavy reinforced concrete shells. Only the US has ever required this high degree of reactor vessel containment and leakage protection.
All the piping, wiring, and control systems in American reactors are redundant and are run through reinforced casements. The insides of a reactor are as over-built as the outsides. No other country has done this, either, because it cost so much.
Since all our reactors need to be next to large water sources for cooling, it was presumed when they were designed that they needed to be protected from floods and hurricanes. They were also designed to withstand tornadoes and earthquakes.
The protection added enormous costs. That's partly why new construction stopped in the early 70s.
Fukushima's reactors were protected by an insulated sheet-metal shed inside another sheet-metal shed. Chernobyl used only one tin shed.
Reactors don't explode when they fail. They melt and release radioactive super-heated steam.
The steam is what our reactors are designed to contain in the first dome. The second dome contains the water that comes when the steam cools down, and is the backup for any steam that leaks from the inner dome.
Comparing Fukushima to any of ours is like comparing a warehouse to a fortress.
I remember during Hurricane Hugo when the Carolinas lost every nuclear power plant that were online at the time. And every hurricane since then, too. Well, not really, but that's what Alex Jones and by extension BentBow would like you to think
BS.. They failed because the generators (needed to keep the plant safe) were DESIGNED and built below the water level that broached the walls. When those generators failed, they lost the plant.
The mitigation efforts were not adequate and partially failed due to MORE human error, but it was the design that crippled the plant.
The US offered to transport generators to the site, the Japanese declined.
As far as the US plants are concerned I certainly hope they took note of what happened in Fukishima and have made efforts to prevent such a disaster if they were not already prepared. There is no comparison here though, the Japanese had minutes. The US plant operators have days....
Yup.
Every commercial nuclear reactor in the US is encased in 2 heavy reinforced concrete shells. Only the US has ever required this high degree of reactor vessel containment and leakage protection.
All the piping, wiring, and control systems in American reactors are redundant and are run through reinforced casements. The insides of a reactor are as over-built as the outsides. No other country has done this, either, because it cost so much.
Since all our reactors need to be next to large water sources for cooling, it was presumed when they were designed that they needed to be protected from floods and hurricanes. They were also designed to withstand tornadoes and earthquakes.
The protection added enormous costs. That's partly why new construction stopped in the early 70s.
Fukushima's reactors were protected by an insulated sheet-metal shed inside another sheet-metal shed. Chernobyl used only one tin shed.
Reactors don't explode when they fail. They melt and release radioactive super-heated steam.
The steam is what our reactors are designed to contain in the first dome. The second dome contains the water that comes when the steam cools down, and is the backup for any steam that leaks from the inner dome.
Comparing Fukushima to any of ours is like comparing a warehouse to a fortress.
Infowars is full of **it.
To add to this, since a good portion of the total number of nuclear reactors in the US are built into warships, the NRC/AEC, designers and engineers are all pretty well versed in how to design/build/operate/maintain reactors under adverse conditions. Submarine reactors are built with things like depth bombing factored in. Carrier reactors are built with things like sea state 7 (think perfect storm 1991) factored in.
The entire nuclear power industry, civilian and military, of the United States has exactly no equal anywhere in the world where design, engineering and especially operational safety is concerned. It's hard to accurately put into words just how absurdly overprotective, redundant, failsafe, etc our nuclear power generation is and always has been.
And again, having done a few hundred reactor coolant loop isolation valve checklists in the wee hours of the morning, and living/hanging out with nuclear engineers for a decade or so, I do have a smidgen of experience with that particular industry.
Two plants are vulnerable to both heavy rainfall and the expected storm surge
Those two reactors, located NE of Myrtle Beach, North Carolina, are known as “Brunswick Steam Electric Plant, Unit 1” and “Brunswick Steam Electric Plant, Unit 1.”
Each unit produces nearly 1,000 MWe of electricity, and they are both built on the General Electric “Type 4” power plant design, which is almost identical to the GE nuclear power plant design used in the Fukushima-Daiichi reactors in Japan. All of these reactors are designed and constructed as “boiling-water reactors” or BWRs. The designs are decades old, and they are subject to catastrophic failures and even core meltdowns that release radioactive isotopes directly into the atmosphere and surrounding areas.
I read a comparison between Chernobyl and Long Island. It said Long island avoided the tragedy because they had safety measures in place to avoid any accident. But much better were the processes and superior design that ensured the safety measures didnt need to be taken.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
