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No, I haven't performed research recently. I was curious if there were actual citations specifically referencing marriage in historical cultures.
i have a book called, "the case for same sex marriage". when i'm done reading it, i'll let you know from what i gather so far, the ancient cultures idea of marriage was way different than what it is today.
i have a book called, "the case for same sex marriage". when i'm done reading it, i'll let you know from what i gather so far, the ancient cultures idea of marriage was way different than what it is today.
If the concept of marriage for heterosexuals was so different historically than how can one draw a meaningful comparison between "gay marriage" then vs. "gay marriage" now?
If the concept of marriage for heterosexuals was so different historically than how can one draw a meaningful comparison between "gay marriage" then vs. "gay marriage" now?
It was not "marriage". It was typically an older man who received approval from a young boy's father and was considered more of a mentoring relationship; typically at the age of 30 the young man married a woman.
Some people say that Paul wrote against those relationships, not loving partnerships.
Not when discussing the inception of marriage...marriage is for the production of offspring and the protection thereof.
Uh, you make no sense. We have 2 children, we're gay, yet we are barred from the protection marriage offers children in families. You're actually hurting children in this case. Although luckily we live in one of few states that allows us to both be legal parents. But if one of us dies, the other one and the kids are screwed financially.
Who said anything about killing, beating up gays. Denied rights humans receive...?
Marriage is between a man and a woman. I'm confused how marriage is a right. After the state and government didnt make marriage a Right. It actually is a religious practice and bond between the church and the two people marrying that is where marriage did come from. Now we have a mix of legal and church marriages these days but that was the origin of marriage in churches and religion. Notice you didn't discuss the sister or 100 women or 100 men if you prefer. Nothing to say about the other adults and humans? I didnt say it wasnt crazy JUST believe it will we discuss by those people and demand those rights too.
This country was founded on the basis of separation of church and state. Why is that concept so difficult for you radical fundamentalists to grasp?
The founding fathers saw the injustices and atrocities that occurred when religion and legislature became intertwined. Therefore, it's irrelevant that marriage has historically been a religious institution.
I have a serious problem with bringing in these so-called "straw man" arguments. Marriage is a legally binding contract between two individuals. It's incredibly insulting to suggest that bestiality or polygamy is the same is granting the right of marriage to two consenting, homosexual adults.
I'm just absolutely appalled that there are actually a number of people out there with such ignorant views. Instead of opening up that bogus, scientifically disproven bible of yours, how about learning about scientific process aka reality?
The bottom line is that people get married to take advantage of the financial, health, and beneficiary, among other benefits that marriage awards. Not for some proverbial "contract between them and god". If you believe that to be true, you're definitely delusional. You also fail to mention the fact that while marriage may be a Christian tradition, not everyone who gets married in this country is Christian.
So in other words, a gay Christian cannot get married, yet a Muslim, Hindu, atheist, Jew, or pagan can. That makes sense?
Uh, you make no sense. We have 2 children, we're gay, yet we are barred from the protection marriage offers children in families. You're actually hurting children in this case. Although luckily we live in one of few states that allows us to both be legal parents. But if one of us dies, the other one and the kids are screwed financially.
Second, your first post kind of lost me. You say that countries seemingly less 'religious' are more accepting of gay marriage/lifestyles etc., but then you say the US is 'bound' by Christian conservative views...
that confuses me b/c unlike a lot of Middle Eastern countries, the US does not have a Christian-law based government. The Bible is not the source for legal doctrine (you won't do 10yrs for worshipping another god)
While the US was founded on the basis of secularity, the fact remains that the US is a Christian nation.
Polls suggest most people don't accept the plethora of evidence that supports evolution, instead believing in the story of Adam & Eve. Most Europeans think of America, to put it frankly, as the "rich, dumb jock".
So although the Constitution calls for a separation of church and state, the reality that so many people are Christian, there's bound to be religious infusion, and explains why the majority of Americans are uncomfortable with gay marriage and gays in general - their god says it's wrong.
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from what i gather so far, the ancient cultures idea of marriage was way different than what it is today.
