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Old 04-21-2008, 04:15 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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Barna report: Variation in divorce rates among Christian faith groups:
Denomination (in order of decreasing divorce rate) % who have been divorced
Non-denominational ** 34%
Baptists 29%
Mainline Protestants 25%
Mormons 24%
Catholics 21%
Lutherans 21%
** Barna uses the term "non-denominational" to refer to Evangelical Christian congregations that are not affiliated with a specific denomination.

Secondly, I have never before met a gay man who hates gay men and lesbians so much. Such self-loathing must be difficult to maintain.

You attack everything that those of us on the equal rights for all people believe.


that guy is like a jewish nazi supporter
Why because i dont wear my ranbow flag shake my hips and cry about not being able to marry?

Why because I was defending my belief against an ignorant poster. Please tell me why?
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Mostly because you show your ignorance or lack of respect for others in your lack of simple spelling abilities. That's something you could teach yourself. There's also a spell check feature if you choose to use it.

You don't expect to be taken seriously when you can't express yourself in English unless it is using hate words, do you?

Maybe if you accepted yourself as gay, you would be free of the shackles of your hatred of self and others.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:22 PM
 
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Why because I was defending my belief against an ignorant poster. Please tell me why?
You're calling me ignorant? I'm the one who's provided facts to back up my beliefs. You've just stated you believe what the bible tells you.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:26 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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Mostly because you show your ignorance or lack of respect for others in your lack of simple spelling abilities.
Are you serious?

Please tell me why you keep thinking I'm not accepting of myself?
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:34 PM
 
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Heterosexuals are the only ones that deserve the right to marry. They are the foundation of our nation.
And how would you know if any of the "founders" of our nation were not gay/bisexual who were married due to societal pressure? Its called a "beard".

And along those same lines of thought, are you sure your marriage is deserving? I would hate to burst so many heterosexual's bubble of deservedness, but I have known many a married man who was in fact gay.

Would you like a few websites? Nah, I wouldn't do that to you.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:53 PM
 
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I'm not against gay marriage because of religion, as a matter of fact im an atheist, so religion has no basis on my beliefs or thoughts.

I think gay marriage is wrong because in my opinion, being gay is wrong. I would say it as nicely as i can, but i dont know how else to word it.
Well, for an atheist, you sure mimic the religious right pretty well! I think a lot of people feel being an atheist is wrong, and one who cannot spell is just even "morre wrongir."

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you also seem to be forgetting that marriage is not a right, its a priveledge. If it was a right then you would be able to marry whoever or whatever the hell you want, but you cant. You cant legally go marry your sister or brother, well not in northern states anyways, i dont wanna get into a debate about the south, they are all crazy down there anyways. And with priveleges you have to meet whatever the requirements are, in this case a MAN and a WOMAN... So dont come in here and tell me about how unfair it is.

Some groups are exclusive to blacks or indians, is that wrong to you as well? consider marriage a social group exclusive to straights
My god, why do people always resort to the absurd argument of "well, .. then you would be allowed to marry an animal, or your sibling.."

If gay-marriage is illegal because it is against religious beliefs, than it is not a privilege, it is an extension of church/state.

Ah, valky, you ARE sooo sexy when you get riled up. pant, pant. Come on, we'll find out where it IS legal and get married. And no one on CDF will know. hubba hubba.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:08 PM
 
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Why should Love be a political statement? If two people love each other, why can't they marry. Without letting other people's beliefs interfere? If two CONSENTING adults want to love each other, then why not? Other people's beliefs, should stay out. Out of respect. Same as how I would respect the religious. But without them interfering with other people's lifes.

Polygamy cannot be portrayed the same, but polygamy is not wrong per-say. How many people can be married to a party though in Polygamy would there be a limit? I would say 17 partners is a nice number. lol jk

Christianity is not the only way to acquire morals. There are dozens of other religions that are seperated from Christianity or Judism.

Examples include, Hinduism, Buddhism, Satanism (which is not pegan at all, it has not to do with) -- these are just the ones that I am very familar with. Especially Satanism (All though the name of "Church of Satan" has nothing to do with Satan, ironic)
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:10 PM
 
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Paully I hope you start dressing in the frilly manner of the founders of our nation - powdered wigs, stockings, little buckle shows, a ribbon in your hair and a beauty mark.
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Old 04-21-2008, 06:43 PM
 
Location: CNJ/NYC
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I'm not against gay marriage because of religion, as a matter of fact im an atheist, so religion has no basis on my beliefs or thoughts.

I think gay marriage is wrong because in my opinion, being gay is wrong. I would say it as nicely as i can, but i dont know how else to word it.
What makes being gay "wrong"?

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you also seem to be forgetting that marriage is not a right, its a priveledge.
The Supreme Court of the United States disagrees with you. See Loving vs Virginia, 1967.
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Old 04-21-2008, 06:47 PM
 
Location: CNJ/NYC
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Because no matter how evolved or intelligent human beings ever become, it will NEVER overrule the simple fact that humans are a living organism, and the main objective/purpose of any living organism is to create life.

you show me two gay males producing a baby together themselves, and maybe i wont be so against the idea of gay relationships
If producing offspring is your criteria for a valid relationship/marriage then I take it you are against marriage/relationships for the elderly and people who are barren/sterile?

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till then its nothing more than some perverted sexual fantasy, in the same vein as golden showers or german scat porn, and i dont see why i have to be tolerant of it
Try education.
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