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Old 09-19-2018, 02:49 AM
 
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McDaniel might be the only republican able to lose to a Democrat in Mississippi.
He might lose, he might not lose. He says this kind of stuff to Blacks, he might try to appeal to those who resent Blacks by bringing up things government dependence. The old dog whistle techniques.
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:44 AM
 
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The party of gimme is outraged that someone actually said to pay your own way.
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The party of gimme is outraged that someone actually said to pay your own way.
So what exactly do you define as a "gimme" policy ?
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Old 09-19-2018, 06:57 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So what exactly do you define as a "gimme" policy ?





The 16th Amendment.
The cause of all manifested evils we see today.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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This kind of thinking has been around BEFORE any kind of welfare state ever took place. It dates back to the Reconstruction period. There was alot of opposition to the Freedman's Bureau. There was always that fear of the "lazy Black man". This is especially ironic considering that Blacks had only been a short time out of slavery. There have been those who felt that Blacks were never deserving of the same rights and dignity as everyone else in America.


https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/08/r...lack-suffrage/

I watched the miniseries "Queen". I remember a scene where the KKK was holding a meeting and say of Black people "they take food from your mouths". This pretty much sums up that said mentality has been around for a long time.




I think this goes back to competition. It is easy to convince others "they will take from you" or "you're in competition with them".
The New Deal legislation purposely excluded farm laborers and domestic workers (both disproportionately Black) from enjoying Social Security benefits, because (white) Southern politicians objected to Black people sharing any benefits.

Not only that, Black WWII veterans were often excluded from GI Bill education benefits or home loan schemes available to veterans.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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One person is arguing bringing up the # of people of welfare is a nonsense stat for this discussion and the other person is defending it. You've brought in that same stat, counted differently, which makes it still a nonsense stat. Is that point lost on you?
And my post is directed to the two of them, not to you. Unless you're a moderator now, you don't control what people post here.
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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The New Deal legislation purposely excluded farm laborers and domestic workers (both disproportionately Black) from enjoying Social Security benefits, because (white) Southern politicians objected to Black people sharing any benefits.

Not only that, Black WWII veterans were often excluded from GI Bill education benefits or home loan schemes available to veterans.
I think FDR should have told the bigoted types in the South, "either understand that everyone is entitled to these programs or else". He would have had the population numbers on his side. They were a smaller part of the electorate. The whole "Solid South" thing could have easily been ignored. FDR might have lost at least 150 electoral votes, but he would have still won the election. Hoover got 59 electoral votes.

I think denying Blacks certain benefits of the GI bill spoke to another fear: Blacks moving into White neighborhoods. If you have the money to move somewhere you want, you will move there. How do you keep someone from moving there? Making it economically impossible.
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:48 AM
 
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So what exactly do you define as a "gimme" policy ?
"Gimme" is just a dog whistle term being used.
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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If Chris McDaniel wants Black people to vote for him, then he is going about it the wrong way. He can appeal to Black voters by seeking common ground with Black Americans. A large majority of Black Americans are church goers. He can start there. Mike Huckabee did that and he did nicely among Black voters. Instead, McDaniel goes about that line of "Black people want free stuff". A majority of Black people aren't looking for free stuff. For that reason, assuming that all Black people want free stuff will not win over Black voters. Unless of course, that is the point with McDaniel, that he really isn't interested in Black voters and he's appealing to those who have a resentment towards Blacks.
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The 16th Amendment.
The cause of all manifested evils we see today.
Congress could collect taxes before that.
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