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Old 01-05-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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This was the warning I received when I announced my upcoming trip to friends and clients. "There are roving bands of Muslims", said one. "You won't even recognize London", said another. Then there are the news reports of the swarms of refugee rapists. Well, I just returned from my trip to Rome, San Marino, Venice, Monaco, Paris and London and I'm happy to report that all of the warnings are absolute BULLPUCKY. I walked ALL OVER these cities during my visit and I didn't see a single example of the supposed horrors that I was warned about, and I LOOKED for them. So, ignore the fear mongers and go ahead and book that vacation. You'll have a wonderful time. Just watch out for those obnoxious American tourists.
This is Philadelphia. I don't see a single homeless person, murder or theft.

https://www.centercityteam.com/wp-co...Skyline-15.jpg

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Old 01-05-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Afghan migrant touches 21-year-old Swiss woman's backside in Vienna, she punches him in the face and breaks his nose. Swiss woman gets reported for assault.

https://voiceofeurope.com/2019/01/sw...-assaults-her/

( NOT BEHIND A PAYWALL )
Anyone, anywhere, can “report” an assault.

According to the link, the Swiss woman returned to Switzerland. Presumably, no action was taken.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I’ve lived in America all my life and have never been a victim of a crime, so crime doesn’t exist in America.
The same people who transit through an airport in Europe and declare all is well on the continent, are the same who are quick to say the US is overrun by shootings. Of course, they've never heard a gunshot in their lives.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:29 AM
 
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That list is certianly not accurate by any means. Puerto Rico near the "safe" top at #10? Lol.
You didn't like that list? Well putting aside the fact you didn't counter with anything empirical to counter, the point is more than adequately made the U.S. and it's citizens have not got higher ground to stand upon if discussing the safety of European countries. You're killing each other at a greater rate than Muslims or Romas are killing anybody in Europe. FACT!

Here let me help you with another list:

https://www.businessinsider.com/safe...e-world-2018-6
mmmh, U.S. not even in the top thirty.


https://thepointsguy.com/news/the-us...-in-the-world/
Ooopsy, not here either.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...the-world.html
And once again......

and more:

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/20...es-world-2018/

https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2...s-to-visit-are
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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The same people who transit through an airport in Europe and declare all is well on the continent, are the same who are quick to say the US is overrun by shootings. Of course, they've never heard a gunshot in their lives.
Nonsense. The same people who have lived in Europe and the U.S. will tell you they've never heard a gunshot in Europe but the U.S. on the other hand, they've heard plenty. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...map-2018-10-27 "not including the 22,000 suicides"

U.S... the country where idiots have to be reminded through public service announcements prior to New Years eve that bullets fired into the air by drunken celebrants have to come down somewhere.
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Old 01-05-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Anyone, anywhere, can “report” an assault.

According to the link, the Swiss woman returned to Switzerland. Presumably, no action was taken.
From that same site:
https://voiceofeurope.com/2017/11/sw...ed-by-migrant/

I suppose you would say, "Anyone, anywhere, can be raped by their neighbor."

I agree, terrible things can happen anywhere. Once again, mass immigration does not bring you the best and the brightest. It also comes in with a percentage of criminal element. Immigration needs to be controlled, not stemmed, simply controlled with standards.

Some cultures have different values (like it's OK to have sex with a 12 year old or it's not rape if it's a boy under the age of 13) that do not fly in Judea-Christian-based-law countries. There needs to be more education on the standards and practices (and laws) of the host country for those being hosted. None of that happens effectively in mass immigration. And once again, the criminal element are criminals; hence, they don't follow the laws.

We also need to stop stifling reports or giving more lenient sentences for immigrant law breakers. Just because I have never seen the law that it's not OK to rape my neighbor, doesn't mean I should get a more lenient sentence if I do. The laws need to be adjudicated to the fullest seriousness of the crime independent of the persons race, religion, or culture. We are giving criminals a pass in the name of diversity.
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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About 20 years ago at the annual tree lighting event in NYC, I lost track of the butt grabs I experienced in the crowds. No clue who or how many engaged in this.

As the evening progresses I put my cold hands into my coat pockets. My right hand met someone else’s hand in the same pocket. I immediately jerked my hand out and look around. Nothing.

Never once dawned on me to ponder the gender, nationality or religion of the butt grabbers or pick-pocketer. Crap happens in large crowds, everywhere. Jerks are jerks.

Oh, your story reminded me of one of my own: About 40 years ago I was in a large crowd with one of my children in my arms (fellow posters, no parent shaming please for having a toddler in a crowd...she survived me and now has several of her own) and I was desperately attempting to locate her pacifier...My hand met someone else's in a pocket...And it was not my husband's, in whose coat I thought I was searching.
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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This is Philadelphia. I don't see a single homeless person, murder or theft.

https://www.centercityteam.com/wp-co...Skyline-15.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Philadelphia
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:14 PM
 
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This was the warning I received when I announced my upcoming trip to friends and clients. "There are roving bands of Muslims", said one. "You won't even recognize London", said another. Then there are the news reports of the swarms of refugee rapists. Well, I just returned from my trip to Rome, San Marino, Venice, Monaco, Paris and London and I'm happy to report that all of the warnings are absolute BULLPUCKY. I walked ALL OVER these cities during my visit and I didn't see a single example of the supposed horrors that I was warned about, and I LOOKED for them. So, ignore the fear mongers and go ahead and book that vacation. You'll have a wonderful time. Just watch out for those obnoxious American tourists.
But but.....those who never set foot outside their minds love to THINK that things are this way...that way they never have to leave the comfort zone of their local sports bar.
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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The same people who transit through an airport in Europe and declare all is well on the continent, are the same who are quick to say the US is overrun by shootings. Of course, they've never heard a gunshot in their lives.
Our local towns have actually installed gunshot warning systems that inform the police at the sound of a gunshot (which obviously happens quite often).....

A woman I know who works for the Catholic Charity and with homeless over there says she hears gunshots at least weekly....right outside where she works.

By any measure these things are less likely in Europe.

Violent Crime here in Florida is at a 30 year low....which is about 420 per 100K.

In MA (New England) it's 370. Vermont it is 118.

Europe does not use the same standards for measurement so it is difficult to compare, but suffice it to say that some (many?) places in the states are vastly more dangerous than others.
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