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Old 11-29-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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Yep. Its just a real estate mogul. Nothing to see here. Its not like the current US President and person in charge of shaping foreign policy failed to reveal a significant financial conflict (which, incidentally, he vehemently denied existed at the time) with the Russian government at the same time he was advocating the complete revamping of diplomatic relations with Russian in a way more favorable to Russia and benefiting politically from Russian espionage.

do you understand that charging Cohen with false statements to Congress makes his worthless on anything he says about Trump as a witness? That's all Mueller has, charging people with false statements and no other crime that has to do with collusion.

Does Mueller has something else other than making people plea to false statements? Is there an ACTUAL crime that has to do with espionage or a serious crime? We are still waiting.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So a real estate mogul negotiated a deal to build a hotel in Russia (as he did in many countries). One of his many attorneys lied about it, and that’s your “Russian Collusion/Russia switched the votes” argument? And after 2 years this is what you have?

You guys are delusional if you think a tabloid conspiracy is enough to unseat a president or convict anyone with criminal charges. Wapo, and the NYTs print a slanted story...CNN runs with it and online left leaning journalists tweet their interpretation of what was printed...your favorite comedians and actors make jokes about it and you’re stuck in a matrix of fantasy for the weekend only to end up disappointed on Monday again.

And around and round we go...
Negotiating a deal for a hotel in Moscow while he is running for president is not just any real estate mogul. This could offer insight to other meetings Trump jr and Kushner had with Russia. Keep in mind they all claimed they had no contact with Russia.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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So a real estate mogul negotiated a deal to build a hotel in Russia (as he did in many countries).

correct.



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One of his many attorneys lied about it,....

correct..... to congress.


trump also lied about it while in office:


"I have had dealings over the years where I sold a house to a very wealthy Russian many years ago. I had the Miss Universe pageant — which I owned for quite a while — I had it in Moscow a long time ago. But other than that, I have nothing to do with Russia,"


Donald J. Trump, 05/11/17

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/11/trum...o-nothing.html
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:23 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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So why would Trump's attorney commit a felony to cover up something so innocent and commonplace?
Who knows. How does this point to Trump though? Where’s Trump’s collusion at?

This is just the JFK assassination all over again. Just one conspiracy piled onto another. Personally, unless there is a full recording verified or some type of documentation, I don’t see any of this going anywhere. The hysteria in Wapo and the comment section of the NYTs just isnt concrete enough
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:24 PM
 
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So a real estate mogul negotiated a deal to build a hotel in Russia...
Who? Certainly not Trump. I mean, look at this tweet:

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Old 11-29-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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SO why lie about it? Lying about something that everyone knows it's what built his empire. The man is a successful RE Developer, why lie? Makes no sense.

And you are defending that?

I haven't see the full report and neither have you. Mueller forcing Cohen to admit lying to Congress for a lesser sentence for his financial convictions is not evidence or the truth.


If you want to use Cohen as a reliable witness to make a case against Trump then you don't charge him with lying or perjury because it makes him worthless especially when it's part of a plea deal for a lesser sentence for his financial convictions that has nothing to do with the Mueller investigation.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:27 PM
 
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Who knows. How does this point to Trump though? Where’s Trump’s collusion at?

This is just the JFK assassination all over again. Just one conspiracy piled onto another. Personally, unless there is a full recording verified or some type of documentation, I don’t see any of this going anywhere. The hysteria in Wapo and the comment section of the NYTs just isnt concrete enough
Again, you have no idea what recordings or not that Mueller has. You have no idea at all of what Mueller has.

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Old 11-29-2018, 12:27 PM
 
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Who? Certainly not Trump. I mean, look at this tweet:




not with the government of Russia. I'm still waiting on Mueller to show us anything other than lying to Congress.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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correct.






correct..... to congress.


trump also lied about it while in office:


"I have had dealings over the years where I sold a house to a very wealthy Russian many years ago. I had the Miss Universe pageant — which I owned for quite a while — I had it in Moscow a long time ago. But other than that, I have nothing to do with Russia,"


Donald J. Trump, 05/11/17

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/11/trum...o-nothing.html
And the bolded is your smoking gun???

I know this will drive some of you crazy, but this would never be enough to covnvict a sitting president or anyone for that matter. Unless there is hardcore, concrete evidence, it will go no where. Regardless of what a Twitter journalist with a blue check next to their name will claim
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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Negotiating a deal for a hotel in Moscow while he is running for president is not just any real estate mogul. This could offer insight to other meetings Trump jr and Kushner had with Russia. Keep in mind they all claimed they had no contact with Russia.

The negotiations for the deal were underway well before his candidacy. He terminated the deal during his campaign.
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