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Old 11-29-2018, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NYUSA, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way.
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There is a lot of detail to the preliminary reports, phone calls, emails, dates and it does agree with the Steele Dossier. I wouldn't dismiss this action lightly, but we will see what comes out in the next few weeks.
& what a coincidence that police raided Deutschebank's Frankfurt headquarters on Thursday?

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...All of which brings us to the president of the United States.

When Trump nearly went personally bankrupt in the early 1990s, he left a handful of major U.S. banks on the hook for about $3.4 billion in loans he couldn't repay (and about $900 million of which he had personally guaranteed). Hotels, casinos, real estate, an airline and other parts of his debt-ridden portfolio went into bankruptcy protection. In the wake of that collapse, Trump became a pariah among major U.S. banks, and he had to find unique ways of lining up money for the infrequent and small-bore deals he pursued thereafter. That left him borrowing money from labor unions and small, local lenders. Deutsche, keen at the time to make a name for itself in U.S. investment banking and commercial lending, was less hesitant to do business with Trump. ...
Deutsche Bank’s Troubles Are Donald Trump’s Troubles

The president has a long-standing business relationship and conflict of interest with a German banking giant often mired in scandal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ump-s-troubles

Guess we'll find out soon enough, after all, the House Financial Services Committee, which Democrats will take control of in January, has the power to subpoena Deutsche for banking records and other information regarding its relationship with the president, the Trump Organization and the Kushner family.
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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And there is the $50 million penthouse Trump offered to Putin

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ldqpgc#4ldqpgc

Man, this thing getting exponentially bigger with everyday
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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& what a coincidence that police raided Deutschebank's Frankfurt headquarters on Thursday?



Deutsche Bank’s Troubles Are Donald Trump’s Troubles

The president has a long-standing business relationship and conflict of interest with a German banking giant often mired in scandal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ump-s-troubles

Guess we'll find out soon enough, after all, the House Financial Services Committee, which Democrats will take control of in January, has the power to subpoena Deutsche for banking records and other information regarding its relationship with the president, the Trump Organization and the Kushner family.
Which is why he threatened Mueller not to look at his finances.
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NYUSA, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way.
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Which is why he threatened Mueller not to look at his finances.
& why didn't reveal his tax returns.
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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And there is the $50 million penthouse Trump offered to Putin

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ldqpgc#4ldqpgc

Man, this thing getting exponentially bigger with everyday
This was just confirmed by the Wall Street Journal

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-t...32455?mod=e2tw

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The proposed plans for the 2016 project included giving Russian President Vladimir Putin a $50 million penthouse, long-time Trump associate Felix Sater said in an interview. Mr. Cohen loved the idea, Mr. Sater said.
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:37 PM
 
Location: FL
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What "favor?"


Well, he was the 'fixer'.
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Or, since we are currently solely relying on the word of Cohen that this is actually the truth, perhaps he was actually telling the truth before, but was convinced this story would provide him with a better and brighter future. Is that just a completely unheard of possibility to some of you people? Are you so easily convinced by a confessed liar that he is now telling the truth? Or does your desire to see our president go down make you completely disregard these kinds of uncomfortable ideas? Just curious. I mean, for me, this could go either way. Maybe he's telling the truth, maybe not. I'm just not so quick to accept this man's word as gospel. And besides, even if this is true, the only illegal act committed was committed by Cohen himself. Not Trump. So honestly, what is all the fuss about? All we have now is something else to endlessly speculate about with no way of knowing what is really going on. Which is pretty much exactly the same position we all found ourselves in yesterday, and the day before that, and the day before that.

Bottom line, as with pretty much every other "revelation" to come out of the Mueller probe, this pretty much means nothing. Cohen changing his tune will not affect the president in any way. We are actually being forced to watch one of the most boring reality shows in history, and like most reality shows the best part is when it's over. Please, Mr. Mueller, present your report and let's get on with it. If you have proof that the president has committed a crime, please bring it forward and present it to the American people. Only then will this finally be over, and we can move on. If he's committed a crime, then we take him down. If not, we acknowledge his innocence and move on. I just hope to God it happens soon.
Mueller is still actually finishing his report. Remember Trump only finally submitted his answers to questions a few weeks back after they had a back and forth on figuring out the details for Trump's answers for months now.
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:39 PM
 
Location: sumter
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The task for Mueller was to find out if there was any collusion between Russia and anyone involved in the Trump campaign. That's what they're doing, and several people associated with Trump during his campaign are getting in trouble. How is that a witch hunt? It seems there indeed are many in Trump's orbit who have been indicted. And your point would be?
Because Trump scream witch hunt everyday, so of course his supporters are going to scream it as well. They believe everything he tells them to, no matter if it's right or wrong. After all, he did say he could shoot somebody and not lose a single vote.
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NYUSA, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way.
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This was just confirmed by the Wall Street Journal

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-t...32455?mod=e2tw
Letter Of Intent from Felix Sater to Michael Cohen:

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"Dear Michael, Attached is the signed LOI (Letter of Intent) by Andrey Rozov. Please have Mr. Trump counter-sign, signed and sent back," Sater wrote. "Lets make this happen and build a Trump Moscow. And possibly fix relations between the countries by showing everyone that commerce & business are much better and more practical than politics. That should be Putins message as well, and we will help him agree on that message. Help world peace and make a lot of money, I would say thats a great lifetime goal for us to go after. Sincerely, Felix Sater."
'Help world peace and make a lot of money': Here's the letter of intent to build a Trump Tower Moscow

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-intent-2017-9

Full letter @ link
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:55 PM
 
Location: FL
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Where did he admit that? Show me the exact words.


Here are Cohen's actual "lies" as he stated TODAY in court. Are you are alleging that Cohen is lying at his guilty plea for lying"


“I asserted all efforts ceased in January 2016 when they kept going until June 2016,” he said.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/document...-mueller-probe
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