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Old 11-29-2018, 08:22 PM
 
Location: FL
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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Your own link supports me not you, saying "as late as approximately June 2016" (7a, page 5). Later on in the data, the latest contact date given was June 14, 2016 when Cohen informed Individual 2 he would not be traveling to Moscow.


I think you are confusing statements made in 2017 by Cohen to Congress and investigators.
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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He would if Trump and Russia agreed to the Russian tower (brought up today) being branded a Trump tower. The details if it happened are sketchy.

The word "paid" is past tense indicating it already happened, not your speculation that it would have happened if the tower had been built and branded. By "sketchy" details you mean "non-existent".
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:40 PM
 
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You realize Trump lies about everything right? Like he emphatically lied about paying off Daniels and McDougal. But it was proven that he knew exactly what was going on. He'll deny to the death.

Does Trump realize it?
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The word "paid" is past tense indicating it already happened, not your speculation that it would have happened if the tower had been built and branded. By "sketchy" details you mean "non-existent".
There is nothing to prove there was or wasn't a payment. Maybe it didn't go through.
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:50 PM
 
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There is nothing to prove there was or wasn't a payment. Maybe it didn't go through.

In which case, making an allegation that he was paid is groundless. Thank you.
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:02 PM
 
Location: SDL/PDX/RDU
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I thought it was very interesting that one of the members of the Intelligence Committee pointed out that it appears there were no inconsistencies with Cohen's testimony than the testimony offered by others who also appeared.

That would seem to indicate if Cohen plead guilty to lying to Congress, other's were as well. Seems like there's one name that rises above others... Jr.

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Old 11-29-2018, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NYUSA, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way.
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Your own link supports me not you, saying "as late as approximately June 2016" (7a, page 5). Later on in the data, the latest contact date given was June 14, 2016 when Cohen informed Individual 2 he would not be traveling to Moscow.


I think you are confusing statements made in 2017 by Cohen to Congress and investigators.
These links may clarify, long story short: the "Alternative facts defense" for defending &/or delivering false statements never made sense.

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Cohen added that in 2017 when he appeared before the Senate Intelligence Committee, he gave a “false” description of the Moscow Project.

“I asserted all efforts ceased in January 2016 when they kept going until June 2016,” he said. “There were more extensive communications. I said I never contemplated travel or spoke to Individual 1 regarding travel, but I did.”

He added: “I would like to add that I never did travel to Russia and I have never been to Moscow. I made the statement to keep up with political messaging and out of loyalty.”
Lawyer lied to Congress to protect Trump and political message

https://yournz.org/2018/11/30/lawyer...tical-message/

Ex-Trump attorney Michael Cohen pleads guilty to lying to Congress in Russia probe

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex-...n-russia-probe
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:27 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Cohen pleading guilty to a lesser sentence is evidence that Cohen has provided Mueller with information valuable to Mueller's investigation of a conspiratorial connection between Russian election interference and Trump's presidential campaign. None of us know what that information is, but we can conclude that something of material value is being disclosed.

Cohen's word alone was never going to have any value. Cohen's word corroborated by independent evidence, however, still has significant value.

I love how people pretend that the former head of the FBI and his team of extremely seasoned Federal prosecutors are a bunch of rubes bumbling around, reading C-D posts, suddenly smacking their heads realizing, "gee Hellion1999 just posted that getting Cohen to plead down to perjury is going to make him useless as a witness! Why didn't we think of that first?"
I'm sure Trump was hoping for a Barry Zuckerkorn to do the investigating.
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:29 PM
 
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So, in addition to the Manafort bombshell, now we find out that Cohen is also talking to Mueller. This is just a tough week for poor ol' tRump. His chickens are now roosting all over him.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...-cohen-mueller

Has he snuck out of DC for the weekend?

Can't wait to enjoy the impending tweet storm. His silence is just the calm before the storm.

I kinda doubt he'll be playing his best golf game anytime soon.




hahahahahaha,



So this topic is 2.5 months old. And still nothing has happened.
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