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Old 09-17-2018, 01:47 PM
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Location: Trumpville
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Adding onto this is the fact that conservatives who are Biblical literalists tend to be skeptical of modern science in its entirety now for this reason. A prime example of this is climate change. Accepting climate change does not contradict scripture yet most religious conservatives believe that it does. They've already been trained to deny geology, astronomy, and even written history when it comes to the age of the earth so they naturally do the same thing when it comes to climate.

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Old 09-17-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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Anyway, who believes the stupid story of the Ark anyway besides a small percentage of fringe crazies?
The problem pops up when the fringe crazies start deciding what's in the textbooks.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 01:54 PM
 
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The problem pops up when the fringe crazies start deciding what's in the textbooks.
When schools stop teaching elementary school kids that girls have a penis and boys have a vagina, then they *might* have my attention as far as having a clue about scientific fact.

Until then?

Teaching transgenderism as a norm is just as faulty as teaching religion as fact.

Old dogma <> New dogma
Religion <> Scientism
 
Old 09-17-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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Arizona science curriculum to be reviewed by a guy who thinks there were dinosaurs on Noah's Ark.

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/opini...sm/1291933002/

I know, I know - if we call the dumb hicks out for being dumb hicks, they get pouty and stubborn and double down on the dumb-hickery just to teach us a lesson.

But in the name of all that's holy and unholy, Arizona, could you try to not embrace the stereotype? I've been to Phoenix, you have what looks like a fairly advanced civilization, what is with this?
Dinosaurs were probably not on the Ark but there is no proof contrary either. Does anyone know how long ago the great flood happened? Keeping an open mind is a good thing but teaching it in school isn't the place to impress that it is an undeniable truth.

Teaching that would be right up there with the Theory of Evolution, the theory that students are taught not as a theory but as a truth that they are descended from apes. The theory has led to scientific breakthroughs in genetics but there is still the missing link. So we are 98% similar to apes but no one talks about being 97% similar to frogs.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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There is no sense trying to rationalize to the literal bible thumper's , no matter how good your explanation.

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Old 09-17-2018, 02:15 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Dinosaurs were probably not on the Ark but there is no proof contrary either. Does anyone know how long ago the great flood happened? Keeping an open mind is a good thing but teaching it in school isn't the place to impress that it is an undeniable truth.

Teaching that would be right up there with the Theory of Evolution, the theory that students are taught not as a theory but as a truth that they are descended from apes. The theory has led to scientific breakthroughs in genetics but there is still the missing link. So we are 98% similar to apes but no one talks about being 97% similar to frogs.
Dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago. Millions of years before there was anything even remotely resembling human beings on this planet. Dinosaurs on the ark? Do the math.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 02:34 PM
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There is no sense trying to rationalize to the literal bible thumper's , no matter how good your explanation.
It's too bad those "literal Bible thumpers" are now in complete control of all three branches of the US government and most state legislatures. That is why I am voting straight BLUE this November.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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It's too bad those "literal Bible thumpers" are now in complete control of all three branches of the US government and most state legislatures. That is why I am voting straight BLUE this November.
Myself included. And I haven't voted for a Democrat since 1976.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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Dinosaurs were probably not on the Ark but there is no proof contrary either.
That's so very much not how it works. There's half a dozen unproven implicit assumptions in the requirement for "proof contrary".

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Does anyone know how long ago the great flood happened?
There's no evidence it ever happened.

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Teaching that would be right up there with the Theory of Evolution, the theory that students are taught not as a theory but as a truth that they are descended from apes.
Humans are apes, actually. Of course, we are not descended from the other apes we currently find in nature, but from a shared ancestor.

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The theory has led to scientific breakthroughs in genetics...
Not really. Genetics arrived on the scene (Mendel) pretty much independently, and Darwin never speculated much on the mechanisms for trait inheritance. Of course, with the discovery of DNA and the ability to sequence genes, more evidence was compiled.

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but there is still the missing link
No. It's a Hollywood myth, a popular expression with no actual meaning. There's no hominid out there that would provide the final proof, nor is the absence of a specific fossil a problem for the ToE at all.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 03:03 PM
 
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It's too bad those "literal Bible thumpers" are now in complete control of all three branches of the US government and most state legislatures. That is why I am voting straight BLUE this November.
Really? Been to a public school lately? Pretty soon girls who are girls and boys who are boys won't be allowed to attend.

But if you identify as a can of ginger ale that can tap dance lesbian dance theory while being addressed as mister-sister wonky butt ... you'll get a participation trophy in lieu of a diploma.

Oh wait. I think lesbians aren't allowed anymore. They've jumped the shark and aren't cool enough.
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