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Old 09-19-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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Creationists never left.

Most people do believe in creationism and calling them hicks and thinking only a small handful of fringe believe, is elitist and disrespectful.


I guess if you believe we were descended from apes, it would not be derisive to call someone, any one of the species of primates.
Most people? The uneducated do, but only 22% of Americans with a post grad degree do.....

12% of Germans ID as creationists
9% of the UK ID as creationists

Among muslims, especially in the more backwards countries, evolution is NOT popular.

A basic summary is given as:

""The war on the theory of evolution and on its proponents most often originates in forms of religious extremism closely linked to extreme right-wing political movements... some advocates of strict creationism are out to replace democracy by theocracy."

So, yes, a lot of the world believes in theocracy and authoritarianism. One would hope the USA would be on the civilized and democracy side of that equation, but you seem to express some pride in the ideals of the later.....

 
Old 09-19-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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They were saved by grace through faith, same as after he came

i.e. Genesis 15:6
Give it up. Nobody is buying your silly superstition anymor.

"Grace", BTW, is a meanin li ess term. A0 classic throwaway word.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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So vicious serial killer David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz, who became a "born again" Christian in prison, will go to heaven, while heroic and kind hearted Ann Frank will burn in hell until the end of time.
That is the way they preach it. Jews are condemned to hell according to the Bible.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 11:45 AM
 
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That is the way they preach it. Jews are condemned to hell according to the Bible.
Jews are condemned to Hell through Jewish scriptural canon if they believe salvation is based on works and not faith, even before Christ arrived on scene
 
Old 09-19-2018, 11:51 AM
 
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Among muslims, especially in the more backwards countries, evolution is NOT popular.
See? Look long enough and you'll find common ground - even between Arizona GOPers and hardcore Muslims.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 12:09 PM
 
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They were saved by grace through faith, same as after he came

i.e. Genesis 15:6
Really, even the heathens? Before Jesus, were they credited with righteousness by their faith in the gods that were revealed to them?
 
Old 09-19-2018, 12:18 PM
 
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Really, even the heathens? Before Jesus, were they credited with righteousness by their faith in the gods that were revealed to them?
No, your faith needs to be placed in the one true Triune God, not a false one
 
Old 09-19-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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See? Look long enough and you'll find common ground - even between Arizona GOPers and hardcore Muslims.
Fundies are fundies.
The uneducated are the uneducated.
Everywhere.

Remember Witch Doctors? That is the uneducated. No difference today - prayer can heal your cancer.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 12:25 PM
 
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No, your faith needs to be placed in the one true Triune God, not a false one
So again, those who are born in a place where they don't know about Christ or your "one true God," all those people are condemned to eternal hell fire because a cruel and vengeful deity put them in a place where they would have no shot at redemption to begin with?

What a petty little god you have there.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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Fundies are fundies.
The uneducated are the uneducated.
Everywhere.

Remember Witch Doctors? That is the uneducated. No difference today - prayer can heal your cancer.
For someone who spouts off about the uneducated, you certainly seem to have none around this topic - which is a theme among all those too prideful to accept basic universal truths the Bible teaches

Christians don't believe prayer heals cancer, they believe God can heal cancer if He wills, and you speak to God through prayer
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