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Old 09-17-2018, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
No, it's the fault of the PARENTS who raised these people that it is perfectly acceptable to steal.

Capitalism has nothing to do with it.
Capitalism teaches you through societal force that the only thing with value is capital. Naturally people will be drawn to taking goods that have permanent worth, more so than any human being.

You want to stop theft, stop invisible control of goods.
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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I've never seen anything like this. The reporter actually chases after people in the process of looting a Family Dollar store and confronts them. Many are wearing masks or have hidden their faces behind clothing.

"Hey guys, you know you're looting right? You know you're stealing."

The scene begins five minutes into the video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbDS6qgDNSU&t=519s
Looters should be shot on site.
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:59 AM
 
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Capitalism teaches you through societal force that the only thing with value is capital.
Incorrect. Labor has value, though that value will vary depending on skill sets and how many people have specific skill sets. For example, neurosurgeons' labor is valued much more than Walmart clerks' labor. Why? There are few who possess the skill set of a neurosurgeon, and a glut of those who possess the skill set required to be a Walmart clerk.

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Old 09-17-2018, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Incorrect. Labor has value, though that value will vary depending on skill sets and how many people have specific skill sets. For example, neurosurgeons' labor is valued much more than Walmart clerks' labor. Why? There are few who possess the skill set of a neurosurgeon, and a dearth of those who possess the skill set required to be a Walmart clerk.
Abraham Lincoln: "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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Abraham Lincoln: "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."
Labor is compensated, and fairly so, as I've already explained... Labor has value, though that value will vary depending on skill sets and how many people have specific skill sets. For example, neurosurgeons' labor is valued much more than Walmart clerks' labor. Why? There are few who possess the skill set of a neurosurgeon, and a glut of those who possess the skill set required to be a Walmart clerk.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Labor is compensated, and fairly so, as I've already explained... Labor has value, though that value will vary depending on skill sets and how many people have specific skill sets. For example, neurosurgeons' labor is valued much more than Walmart clerks' labor. Why? There are few who possess the skill set of a neurosurgeon, and a glut of those who possess the skill set required to be a Walmart clerk.
Labor does not exist in a void. It requires capital to practice, capital to learn, and capital to be authorized.

And even then labor is only valuable for the capital (goods or services) it produces. Beyond that it is not considered of any worth nor is it considered a variable separate from capital. If you want to treat human beings as autonomous individuals instead of tools to be utilized, you must not attach monetary worth to something, especially not beyond its immediate function.

Then instead of materials being the source of wealth (and by extension, freedom), personal action would, and violent acts of theft would no longer be incentivized. Greed too would no longer be socialized into the poor or the rich as 'good'.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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Labor does not exist in a void. It requires capital to practice, capital to learn, and capital to be authorized.
Not entirely true. There are plenty of primitive societies in which labor exists but there is little to no capital.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Find a report/news story/video where white people are looting. It's not about race, looting by anyone is a crime, but the vast majority of looting is done by black people.
Whites loot differently. Bailouts and crony capitalism. Blacks need to stop with this petty garbage and step up their game if they want to get ahead.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:51 AM
 
Location: My House
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Looters should be shot on site.
Disagree. People are more important than material goods. Especially cheap, made in who-knows-where crap.

I do think they should be arrested, though.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: My House
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typical jungle behavior
I did not realize they had Family Dollar stores in jungles. Which one?
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