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Old 09-16-2018, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Should people in a mandatory evacuation area who refused to leave be charged a flat fine if they have to be rescued?

When a child is killed as the result of a natural disaster, should a parent in a mandatory evacuation area who refused to leave, be charged with criminally negligent homicide?
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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Yes. Not just in hurricanes either. If you get lost in the woods 100 yards from a McDonalds or call 9/11 from a corn maze then you should foot the bill not the taxpayers.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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No.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:37 AM
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What about those in a mandatory evacuation zone who can't leave? And how do you know the man in the case in North Carolina didn't plead with his wife that they leave? In a time when we already try to legislate morality too much, now we're going to try to legislate mortality? Say a family doesn't want to evacuate. Maybe they're crazy or dumb. It doesn't matter. They don't want to leave. But they have to leave. On I26, their van is wiped out by a tanker truck and all of them but the father dies. Does he now get to sue the government for making them leave?

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Old 09-16-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Should people in a mandatory evacuation area who refused to leave be charged a flat fine if they have to be rescued?

When a child is killed as the result of a natural disaster, should a parent in a mandatory evacuation area who refused to leave, be charged with criminally negligent homicide?
People stay in evacuation areas mainly to protect their property and personal belongings.

By introducing a charge people are going to be put off seeking help if they do get in to seriopus difficulties and people may die as a result.

Emergency services are free in most countries including Ambulances etc, whilst rescue organisations may be NGO's such as lifeboat, mountain rescue or cave rescue, others may be related to the armed services ratherb than the emergency services. All of them have a one priority to secure life and limb, and anything that puts people off from seeking help would not be welcomed.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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What about those in a mandatory evacuation zone who can't leave? And how do you know the man in the case in North Carolina didn't plead with his wife that they leave? In a time when we already try to legislate morality too much, now we're going to try to legislate mortality? Say a family doesn't want to evacuate. Maybe they're crazy or dumb. It doesn't matter. They want to leave. But they have to leave. On I26, their van is wiped out by a tanker truck and all of them but the father dies. Does he now get to sue the government for making them leave?
Maybe they have no family to go to and don’t have money to evacuate. People who live in the path of hurricanes understand that they’re unpredictable. They could be heading your way and then at the last minute turn or weaken to the point that no evacuation was needed. Some people just don’t have the means to evacuate. Why is this so hard to understand?
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:46 AM
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Should people in a mandatory evacuation area who refused to leave be charged a flat fine if they have to be rescued?
They should not be rescued.

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When a child is killed as the result of a natural disaster, should a parent in a mandatory evacuation area who refused to leave, be charged with criminally negligent homicide?
No, because then we will have to support them at the country club (prison).
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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In some cases along the hurricane Florences path people went door to door to tell the residents to leave and that if they didn't then the rescuers would not be able to help them.


I understand how people feel about told they have to do something but if you stay because you are stubborn you should do so understanding that help will not be coming for you.

I don't think rescue people should risk their lives to rescue people that were not smart enough to get to safety.



Of course there are people that have no where to go or they lack the means, a car, or the money to get flee.



People should not be charged to be rescued from real danger but calling 911 because you didn't get the correct dipping sauce for your nuggets then yes a ticket should be given.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:48 AM
 
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People stay in evacuation areas mainly to protect their property and personal belongings.

By introducing a charge people are going to be put off seeking help if they do get in to seriopus difficulties and people may die as a result.

Emergency services are free in most countries including Ambulances etc, whilst rescue organisations may be NGO's such as lifeboat, mountain rescue or cave rescue, others may be related to the armed services ratherb than the emergency services. All of them have a one priority to secure life and limb, and anything that puts people off from seeking help would not be welcomed.
Exactly! Itís an ever evolving thing too. For example, during the Katrina evacuation people were told they couldnít bring pets so many stayed out and some died. During Harvey they allowed people to bring pets to avoid that.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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In some cases along the hurricane Florences path people went door to door to tell the residents to leave and that if they didn't then the rescuers would not be able to help them.
They always do that. With Irma we had locals telling us to stay put because the roadways were overcrowded, and we had the Governor telling us to get out, and on top of all that we had incoherent babble from the White House.
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