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View Poll Results: What would you do?
Keep working 52 54.17%
Work less hours 11 11.46%
Quit working 17 17.71%
I don't work anyways 16 16.67%
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Greeley, CO
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Lol.

Have you considered the steep tax rate climb that would be necessary to pay for such nonsense?

You would likely be behind the curve.

It's only "free" money to socialists and other such lower life forms.
A UBI is a concept which looks quite compelling on the surface. However, the “careful what you wish for” principle also applies here.

One factor overlooked in the UBI discussion is that it would result in lower wages and in effect becomes a state subsidy to employers. This could be mitigated of course by legislation that prevents employers from taking the UBI into account when negotiating wages/salaries but how realistic that is I don’t know. At any rate there would have to be measures put in place to prevent businesses and organizations from using the UBI as an excuse to pay their employees less.

The UBI concept sounds very simple and straightforward…but is it? The left likes it because they see it as a solution to grinding poverty, but poverty is not only about money. Social programs are called ‘social’ for a reason. The right likes it because it costs less than current social welfare programs and it opens the door to privatizing social services that were once provided by government. This only serves to erodes society and appeals to the globalist ideologues whose goal is the sole destruction of the nation state by replacing it with an international for-profit capitalist model. Open borders, anyone?
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:43 AM
 
Location: My House
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I would wake up, because this country would never pass anything like that...the rednecks would cause a civil war if it did.
Odd, since UBI would probably pay some of them more than they make on "disability."

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Old 09-17-2018, 07:45 AM
 
Location: My House
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I heard a conservative analysis that made the case that getting rid of the current welfare system and providing a UBI might save the government money because of the waste involved in government.

I might be ok with it if we could shut down all of the government agencies involved in the current welfare distribution
I've read similar. The structure needed to keep a UBI program going would be tiny compared to all of the various programs under the welfare umbrellas.
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:48 AM
 
Location: My House
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You might be surprised how little some get, especially women who were stay at home mothers. If they are giving free money to people who can still work they need to increase SS to people who cannot.
I'd imagine they'd raise SS until it was at least 1000 a month so it matched the UBI amount others were getting.
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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Keep working.

The massive tax increase will likely result in me only getting about $200 per month on net. A couple hundred bucks doesn't change my bottom line that much where cost is concerned.
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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I Would travel a bit. Save up for something big to sell on the black market. UBI Would only work if everything became automated, yeah?
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: SGV
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Keep working.

The massive tax increase will likely result in me only getting about $200 per month on net. A couple hundred bucks doesn't change my bottom line that much where cost is concerned.
Wrong!

I already pointed out that the money would appear out of thin air. No tax increase. That's how all collectivist schemes work. I envision this...


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2_pkec0TspM
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:08 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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Say you get about $1,000 per month, or $1,500 in like NYC or SF.
How could that even work??? Would there be universal basic housing to go with that??? All the slackers living in tiny cubicle apartments?

I could never live on just $1,000 or $1500 a month. I would of course keep working my 6-7 day work week schedule. I love my home and my way of life... and there are expenses to pay. Like my high property taxes that go towards educating other people's brats.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:17 AM
 
Location: SGV
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Nobody could quit working on that amount.
I'm such a cheapskate I'd be tempted to give it a try.

The highlight of my week is finding the cheapest gas price in my area and then celebrating like I just won the lottery.

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Old 09-17-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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I'd consider voting in polls that required revealing one's ID.
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