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Old 09-17-2018, 08:16 AM
 
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Failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton returned to the public forum demanding an end to the electoral college in presidential elections because President Donald Trump was a terrible president


“Trump has sunk far below the already-low bar he set for himself in his ugly campaign,” she wrote, ticking of a laundry lists of offensive actions and public failures in his presidency.


https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...oying-america/


Glad she has decided to join the effort to campaign for the midterms. Will she have another Jay Z concert?



When HRC once exclaimed "They were never going to let me be president." Who was the 'They' she was referring to? Voters?

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Old 09-17-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: SGV
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Trump and his cronies do so many despicable things that it can be hard to keep track.
- Hill Dawg

*passes out from too much irony in his brain*
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Sandy Springs)
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The electoral college should be abolished.

One person, one vote. I'm sick of land having a greater say than people.

And btw, this has nothing to do with Hillary. She lost because she was a terrible candidate. It should have been abolished after the 2000 election.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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And no hard facts about any specific or direct actions that have directly affected the American people from a legal or executive standpoint. Just more name-calling and fist slamming on a pulpit.

They will never abolish the electoral college. It gives a something else to be manipulated and fought about. Which is the entire point of politics in the US.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Little Rock, AR
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“Failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton”

That will never get old
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Same old Hillary and same old leftist talking points.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:34 AM
 
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Rigging the primary process wasnt good enough. Bitter sore loser.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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The electoral college should be abolished.

One person, one vote. I'm sick of land having a greater say than people.

And btw, this has nothing to do with Hillary. She lost because she was a terrible candidate. It should have been abolished after the 2000 election.
Yes, the Electoral College was not a good idea. However, it will never be abolished, because to do so requires a Constitutional amendment, which requires ratification by 3/4 of the states. All of the states with lower than average populations benefit from the Electoral College, so they have to motivation to get rid of it.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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The electoral college should be abolished.
No reason to abolish it. What should happen, but has not since the 1930s, is the size of the US House of Representatives should be increased, bigly, to make it properly representative.

As it stands now, we have one federal rep for every 760k citizens. The last time the size of the House was increased to its current 435, the representation ration was 1:290k. Personally, I think the people's House should be 1:100k max and enforced by Constitutional amendment.

If that were the case, the House would be ~3k representatives. But more importantly, CA would have 395 electoral votes in the House, and Wyoming would have 6. That is far more proper than the current numbers. If approximately 12% of the population lives in CA, then CA should hold approximately 12% of the electoral power of the peoples' House.

Also, the states can choose how they award electors any time they want. Maine and Nebraska already do it differently than other states, and each state can choose to be proportional vs WTA if they want. And that too would be more properly representational under the EC system, which is more a nod to the Senate than anything else.

First job though, increase the size of the US House and reapportion the reps. Even if you say 200k or 300k to 1, you get a far more representational setup. This also dilutes and weakens the lobbying power of K Street, as well severely curtailing the effectiveness of gerrymandering. The population has nearly tripled since the last proper increase to the US House. We are long past due for a serious increase.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Originally Posted by atltechdude View Post
The electoral college should be abolished.

One person, one vote. I'm sick of land having a greater say than people.

And btw, this has nothing to do with Hillary. She lost because she was a terrible candidate. It should have been abolished after the 2000 election.
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Yes, the Electoral College was not a good idea. However, it will never be abolished, because to do so requires a Constitutional amendment, which requires ratification by 3/4 of the states. All of the states with lower than average populations benefit from the Electoral College, so they have to motivation to get rid of it.
Bad idea IMO.

But you want one person, one vote... then the tax structure needs to be adjusted also - because people with a lot of property pay WAY more taxes than someone in a two bedroom apartment.

One person, one vote... then have a flat tax were everyone pays into the pot equally. That's true equal representation.
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