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Old 09-17-2018, 10:38 PM
 
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What about all the people who have admitted guilt so far with more indictments coming all the time? Some of those people are people very close to Trump. I know, I know you want to ignore that because you are getting your SCOTUS justices and like Trump for that reason. But you seriously would not tolerate this from a Democrat or maybe even any other Republican.
I guess you didn't read my reply to your other thread.

 
Old 09-18-2018, 03:08 AM
 
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Which Trump in turn will use as an argument that since he was only a suspect that no Special Counsel should have been appointed. These two articles and their timing are very much related.

Release of the information so everyone to see the FBI only suspected Trump, and Lisa Page's confirmation that the FBI had no definitive proof yet.

What a bogus argument.

When does "yet" end?
 
Old 09-18-2018, 03:38 AM
 
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:50 AM
 
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You understand that audits are an accounting process, and not an investigation of criminal wrongdoing, right?

By comparing them it makes it seem like you think they are in the same class of things, as far as government actions go. But they are not. One is an administrative process, routinely conducted hundreds of thousands of times per year. The other is, well, not that.

I keep seeing this "collusion" word pop up. Can you show us where in the US Code the crime you think is "collusion" appears? Find a crime that is described using the term, then show us how it is that you think anything that has been alleged to have occurred as the result of the action of the Russian government forms the basis for that offense.

I will give $1000 to a non-profit of my choice if you can do this.
Try using "Conspiracy against the United States" in place of "collusion" if that makes it easier for you to understand. "Collusion" in this particular case means that Trump or one of the members of his campaign aided and abetted a foreign entity in a conspiracy to undermine the electoral process in the presidential race of 2016. If they were in contact with them with that intent, if they passed on information about where ads needed to run, if they sought to receive material aid from them, they they are guilty of "collusion", which will appear in the indictments under different names.

Mueller's first set of indictments for Russian nationals was not intended to bring them into a courtroom, but to establish that through the hacking of Hillary's email server and the theft and release of her emails to sway the election, Russia was engaged in an act of war against the United States. With that bit of legal wrangling, he set anyone who collaborated with the Russians up to be charged with Treason.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 06:01 AM
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The latest Trump strategy is to release all the text messages so everyone can see the FBI only suspected Trump and they had no prove of collusion before Mueller was appointed.
https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/theh...-mueller%3famp

Therefore, expect Trump to claim Mueller investigation should be ended and Sessions fired.

Here is related article in declassification of text messages:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...y-texts-826304
The investigation was set up to look at Russian government efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, including an investigation of any possible links between the presidential campaign and the Russians.

The initial concerns were reported to US Intelligence by several western intelligence agencies involving signals intelligence relating to Russian target and human intelligence regarding George Papadopoulos.

So far numerous Russians and members of the Trump Administration have been charged with crimes including conspiracy against the United States.

Read: Mueller indictment against 12 Russian spies for DNC hack - Vox

Special Counsel investigation Criminal charges - Wikipedia

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Old 09-18-2018, 06:49 AM
 
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What about all the people who have admitted guilt so far with more indictments coming all the time? Some of those people are people very close to Trump. I know, I know you want to ignore that because you are getting your SCOTUS justices and like Trump for that reason. But you seriously would not tolerate this from a Democrat or maybe even any other Republican.
None of been convicted or, or plead guilty to any sort of "collusion" with Russia. After all, how can you even plead guilty to something that isn't even illegal, not to mention for which no evidence of whatsoever exists. This is third-world politics 101 in action.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 06:51 AM
 
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Try using "Conspiracy against the United States" in place of "collusion" if that makes it easier for you to understand. "Collusion" in this particular case means that Trump or one of the members of his campaign aided and abetted a foreign entity in a conspiracy to undermine the electoral process in the presidential race of 2016. If they were in contact with them with that intent, if they passed on information about where ads needed to run, if they sought to receive material aid from them, they they are guilty of "collusion", which will appear in the indictments under different names.

Mueller's first set of indictments for Russian nationals was not intended to bring them into a courtroom, but to establish that through the hacking of Hillary's email server and the theft and release of her emails to sway the election, Russia was engaged in an act of war against the United States. With that bit of legal wrangling, he set anyone who collaborated with the Russians up to be charged with Treason.
What is alleged to have happened is evidence-less and legal.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 06:52 AM
 
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Trump's campaign manager just pleaded guilty to conspiracy against the U.S.

It's been in all the news.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 06:52 AM
 
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Mueller is going down after the release of this stuff. Heads will roll too.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 06:55 AM
 
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The investigation was set up to look at Russian government efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, including an investigation of any possible links between the presidential campaign and the Russians.

The initial concerns were reported to US Intelligence by several western intelligence agencies involving signals intelligence relating to Russian target and human intelligence regarding George Papadopoulos.

So far numerous Russians and members of the Trump Administration have been charged with crimes including conspiracy against the United States.

Read: Mueller indictment against 12 Russian spies for DNC hack - Vox

Special Counsel investigation Criminal charges - Wikipedia
It's all a ruse dude. It's an illegal investigation that has turned up next to nothing at all. George P. only got TWO WEEKS in jail. Some criminal there. Carter Page is still free and on the news networks. If he was a real spy he'd be locked up. This is all fake garbage and when those docs are released the world will see how corrupt the DNC and this Special Counsel really is.
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