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Old 09-17-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by mikeyyc View Post
Have you read Mueller's mandate. He's empowered to do that exact thing.


You find a thread, you get to pull the thread as much as you want. Emphasis mine. Link here: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-re...67231/download


The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBIDirector James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee onIntelligence on March 20, 2017, includingi) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individualsassociated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

Thats what we are saying. It not a legitimate investigation from the start.

 
Old 09-17-2018, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
Undeniable proof of tRump-Russia collusion:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b71f2eYdTc

Undeniable proof of obstruction of justice:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mKxeo67fn4

And that's just what we ALL know from his verbal diarrhea in front of millions of viewers. What Mueller and his team have dug up remains to be seen.

But it promises to be VERY entertaining.

Stay tuned.

May of 2017 was when Mueller was appointed to investigate collusion. Something about carts and horses, here...
 
Old 09-17-2018, 05:41 PM
 
Location: FL
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I am fine with GOP defending themselves. I am not fine with a President stepping into an active DOJ case to try and court public support to shut down an investigation into the President himself.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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You seem to not be in favor of transparency.

What are you afraid of?

Just face it, the declassification is going to show even more questionable motive by the investigators, and that the DOJ used leaked media reports in their FISA renewals.
I think there should be transparency on both sides. If the Dems did something wrong let it come out. Now, where are the rest of those Kavanaugh documents?
 
Old 09-17-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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The crime is collusion with Russia. The Trump team were suspect.

Another example:

If the IRS suspects someone is a tax cheat they have the right to do an audit and search for evidence. They don't have to have clear proof before looking deeper. In the case of the IRS they don't even need to suspect. It can be just a random audit.
You understand that audits are an accounting process, and not an investigation of criminal wrongdoing, right?

By comparing them it makes it seem like you think they are in the same class of things, as far as government actions go. But they are not. One is an administrative process, routinely conducted hundreds of thousands of times per year. The other is, well, not that.

I keep seeing this "collusion" word pop up. Can you show us where in the US Code the crime you think is "collusion" appears? Find a crime that is described using the term, then show us how it is that you think anything that has been alleged to have occurred as the result of the action of the Russian government forms the basis for that offense.

I will give $1000 to a non-profit of my choice if you can do this.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 05:43 PM
 
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They need to declassify the entire thing, not just the pages Trump wants to use.

More abuse of power by a mentally unstable jerk, trying to change the subject.

More Nunes Nonsense. More Jackass Jim Jordan hysteria.

Blah, blah, blah. If Trump thinks this will stop people from despising him or from believing Mueller, he's pathetically mistaken yet again. Trump acts guilty as hell, and actions speak louder than words. He just looks autocratic and pathetically desperate.
Yes, let the entire thing be declassified.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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You seem to not be in favor of transparency.

What are you afraid of?

Just face it, the declassification is going to show even more questionable motive by the investigators, and that the DOJ used leaked media reports in their FISA renewals.
and when it does, they’ll ignore it.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 06:07 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by Ringo1 View Post
Not true. Simply by introducing it - Trump has introduced chaos. Possibly to take the focus off of his lousy supreme court pick; possibly to take the focus off of Manafort's cooperation agreement.

Whatever the reason, the american people are sick and tired of the chaos of this White House.

Meanwhile, Mueller just keeps his head down and does his job. Why can't the f'ing POTUS do the same?



A desperate man.
Exactly! Cohen or Manafort turned and he is running scared. What a lunatic.
 
Old 09-17-2018, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Originally Posted by phantompilot View Post
You understand that audits are an accounting process, and not an investigation of criminal wrongdoing, right?

By comparing them it makes it seem like you think they are in the same class of things, as far as government actions go. But they are not. One is an administrative process, routinely conducted hundreds of thousands of times per year. The other is, well, not that.

I keep seeing this "collusion" word pop up. Can you show us where in the US Code the crime you think is "collusion" appears? Find a crime that is described using the term, then show us how it is that you think anything that has been alleged to have occurred as the result of the action of the Russian government forms the basis for that offense.

I will give $1000 to a non-profit of my choice if you can do this.
Pilot, please try and keep-up. Trump says “collusion,” the proper term is “conspiracy, which, BTW is one of the crimes that Manafort pleaded guilty to
 
Old 09-17-2018, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Originally Posted by pbmaise View Post
This is Trump directly stepping into the DOJ to influence a case against himself.

From article in first posting in this thread.

Sen. Mark Warner, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, criticized the decision to release the FISA documents.

"The President shouldn’t be declassifying documents in order to undermine an investigation into his campaign or pursue vendettas against political enemies. He especially shouldn’t be releasing documents with the potential to reveal intelligence sources," he tweeted Monday night."
Warner is correct. Trump is dirty and trying his best to hide it.
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